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Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 13:28

Hi everyone I'm trying to find out more about Thomas Curran and his parents, Thomas was born in 1858 in Clonoe Northern Ireland, as far as i know he married a Mary in Scotland then moved to Wigan, any leads at all would be most helpful

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2016 13:47

Are you sure he married in Scotland?



Name:Thomas Curran <<Labourer

Gender:Male

Age:32

Birth Year:abt 1861

Event Date:20 May 1893

Event Place:Wigan, St Catherine, Lancashire, England

Spouse:Mary Ann Martin (father James Martin, labourer)

Father: Robert Curran <<Farmer (deceased)

Parish as it Appears:Wigan

Wit:James Martin & Margaret Bush...?

Gee

Gee Report 7 Feb 2016 14:02

There are 2 Curran families and one is in Glasgow. The family below is the one in relation to the marriage I posted



Name:Thomas Curran

Age in 1911:51

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1860

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:North Clontoe, Togstone, Ireland

County/Island:Lancashire

Street address:21 Baron St Scholes Wigan

Marital Status:Married

Occupation:Labourer Ironworks
Registration district:Wigan



Thomas Curran 51
Mary Ann Curran 48
Thomas Curran 15
Robert James Curran 12
Era Curran 10
Samuel Leonard Curran 8
Propert Curran 5
James Martin 40

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 14:11

Im 100% it's the second family as Robert James Curran is my great grandfather, I'm just struggling with Thomas' father and mothers name too as my great grandfather died when my grandad leslie was 2 years old

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 14:13

Wow just read the top message so they was married in Wigan but met in Glasgow? Thank you so much for that information

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2016 14:39

This is the marriage with the GRO reference if you wanted to order the certificate (Thomas's surname has been transcribed wrongly):-

First name(s) MARY ANN
Last name MARTIN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1893
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ MARY ANN MARTIN married one of these people
THOMAS CURRAM, JOHN GIBSON
District WIGAN
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 118

Kath. x

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 14:46

Thank you kath I'll go and have a look, this is all new to me so I'm struggling with place names especially

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Feb 2016 14:48

The family in 1901:

Thomas Curran

in the 1901 England Census
Record Image Vie

Name: Thomas Curran
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary A Curran
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Wigan
Search Photos: Search for 'Wigan' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St Catherine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3553
Folio: 47
Page Number: 36
Household schedule number: 228
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Curran 39
Mary A Curran 37
Thomas Curran 5
Robert J Curran 2
Eva Curran 2/12

Wife born Scotland, children all born Wigan.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2016 14:58

In the 1911 census that Gins posted Era should be Eva and Propert should be Rupert.

Thomas and Mary Ann have been married 17 years.
7 children born to the marriage. 5 still alive in 1911 and 2 have died.

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Feb 2016 14:59

Mary Ann in 1891?

Mary Ann Martin

in the 1891 England Census
Record Image View

Name: Mary Ann Martin
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Martin
Mother's name: Jane Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Wigan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3050
Folio: 90
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
James Martin 56, born Ireland, County Down
Jane Martin 56, born "
James Martin 24, born Wigan
Mary Ann Martin 28, born Scotland, Ayrshire
John Berridge 10, adopted, born Blackpool
Sidney Berridge 7, ", "
John Potts 53, boarder, born Ireland, County Down

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2016 15:05

Mary Ann in the 1881 census:-

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Platt Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

James Martin Head Married Male 47 1834 Ag Lab Ireland
Jane Martin Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Ireland
Mary A Martin Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Cotton Spinner Scotland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
James Martin Son Single Male 14 1867 Spinner Wigan, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Watson Visitor Married Female 26 1855 - Scotland
Sarah J Watson Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Wigan, Lancashire, England

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2016 15:08

Mary Ann in the 1871 census:-

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Downith Gates, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

James Martin Head - Male 40 1831 - Ireland
Jane Martin Wife - Female 40 1831 - Ireland
James Martin Son - Male 5 1866 - Lancashire, England
Eliza J Martin Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Scotland
Agnes Martin Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Ireland
Mary A Martin Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Scotland<<<<<<<<<<<
Susan Martin Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lancashire, England

Kath. x

Dea

Dea Report 7 Feb 2016 15:10

The children:


1894
CURRAN Jane Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTIN WIG/192/357

1895:
CURRAN Thomas Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTIN WIG/199/97

1896:
CURRAN Letitia Anna Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTIN WIG/203/356

1898:
CURRAN Robert James Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTIN WIG/211/37

1901:
CURRAN Eva Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTINDALE WIG/223/142

1903:
CURRAN Samuel Leonard Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTINDALE WIG/233/69

1906
CURRAN Rupert Wigan Wigan & Leigh MARTIN WIG/245/146

Note that Eva + Samuel Leonard seem to have the mother's maiden name as Martindale ????

Dea x

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 15:10

Thank you so much i have information to go on, I'll continue my search :-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Feb 2016 21:33

Gemma...I suggest that the 1911 Census showing the "Place of Birth" of Thomas Curran should read..
Clonoe
Co.Tyrone

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 22:25

Eringobragh1916 my thoughts too as i had been searching for Clontoe but couldn't find anything but then google suggested Clonoe Co.Tyrone

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Feb 2016 22:35

Do you know if Thomas had a 2nd Christian name...or a brother named Robert James....?

Edit..There is a small Townland named Clontoe in the Co Monaghan

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Feb 2016 22:40

Gemma said in an earlier post that Robert James Curran was her great-grandfather.

Kath. x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Feb 2016 22:51

Wasn't he the son of Thomas and Mary ? ....I was wondering if Thomas had a brother named Robert James..or am I getting confused...???

Gemma

Gemma Report 7 Feb 2016 23:19

Hi, Thomas' father was called Robert and Thomas' son was called Robert James who is my great grand father