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My Father s dad who he never met, Frank R.Grieve , born 1900 in Cameron ,Fife ,Scotland., he left for Buffalo, New York ,have name ship he left on in 1924,
His father was David Grieve born 1833 , mother was Betty maiden name Spence,had brother David Grieve born 1866 , married a Mary Ann S.Grieve 1869 , they had no family , so these people all deceased now.
It s the Frank .R. Grieve 1900 , would love to know if he married , had any family , how do I find out more ? Thanks for your help Helen

His travel in 1924, for helpers' reference:

Frank Robert Grieve
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Frank Robert Grieve
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1923
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: st andrews
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

Occupation: farm worker.
Mother: Mary Ann Grieve, Blue Stone House, Crail, Fife.

EDIT:
Have just re-read your OP, Helen. Do you mean Mary Ann was his aunt's name, not his mother's? I'm confused. Is this the wrong man?]


He had been before, in 1921;

Frank Grieve
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1825-1960
Name: Frank Grieve
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Place: St Andrews
Birth Country: Scotland
Arrival Date: 1 Feb 1921
Port of Arrival: Buffalo, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Foster Sister Ernest Boswell [the words Foster Sister aren't on the image]
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Frank R Grieve
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Frank R Grieve
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1921
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Victorian
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 121216

Familysearch has a link to image on Ellis Island site which may give more details on the 1923 arrival - but I don't have access sorry.

Frank Robert Grieve
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)

Given Name Frank Robert
Surname Grieve
Last Place of Residence Errol, Scotland
Event Date 01 Nov 1923
Age 23y
Nationality Britain, Scotch
Departure Port Glasgow
Arrival Port New York City
Gender Male
Marital Status S
Ship Name Columbia


The image is on www.libertyellisfoundation.org (FS gives a link to that), but the image is exactly the same as the NY passenger list I posted above.

Are the relationships you've posted a bit mixed up?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bielethane Farm House, North Lane, Cameron, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Grieve Head Married Male 34 1867 Farmer Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Mary Ann Grieve Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Kingsbarns, Fife, Scotland
David S Grieve Son Single Male 8 1893 Scholar St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
Francis R Grieve Son Single Male 1 1900 - Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Charlotte Duncan Servant Single Female 25 1876 Servant Domestic Strathkinness, Fife, Scotland

I can't see anything else for Frank after 1823 , I'm afraid.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Kenly, St Leonards, St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Grieve Head Married Male 42 1839 Farmer (Of 436 Acres Of Which 411 Arable) Employing 5 Men 1 Boy & 5 Women Crail, Fife, Scotland
Betsy Grieve Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Kingsbarns, Fife, Scotland
Mary White Grieve Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1865 Farmer's Daughter Kilrenny, Fife, Scotland
David Grieve Son - Male 14 1867 Farmer's Son Cameron, Fife, Scotland

Marriages of Parents of Frank (Francis R)
David Grieve married Mary Ann S Mitchell 1891 St Andrews and St Leonards RD Fife

and Grandparents
David Grieve married Betsy Spence 1863 Anstruther Easter RD Fife

On that 1923 arrival in USA where he gives mother's name as Mary Ann Grieve, Blue Stone House, Crail, Fife he says he's going to join cousin John Brown, 319 E. 86th. St., New York.

Helen, in your opening statement you say that Frank R. was born 1900 but his father David was born 1833. Was his father really 67 when he was born?

You also say that Frank R.'s brother David was born 1866. Was there really 34 years between brothers?

Think Helen mixed up the generations - see my posts above - 2 x census and parents/grandparents marriages

Hi , think I have got his fathers date wrong , David grieve 1867 should have said, and brother David 1893 , thanks for all the information,
I know the address he went to , stayed at John Brown 319 E.86 th Street, years ago I wrote a letter to that address , a long shot I know,got no where ?
The Canadian census in 1925 don't think that's him ,says Canadian , he was Scottish, only went there in 1923 on SS Columbia
Looked on Ellis Island got information on him arriving
Wonder how I could find out if he married? Had any family , death certificate, my family and I will maybe get someone who does genealogy to help us, unless all you helpful people can find out more , thanks again Helen

Frank Robert Grieve born 1900 , in Cameron , Fife is the man who I'm trying to get information on , will be deceased now

That's what we've been looking for, Helen, but not finding anything after 1923, I'm afraid.

We've posted the earlier records just because they came up while we were searching, and in case they gave us any clues.

I couldn't find him on any US census.

What about this one arriving in Montreal in 1930? He gives name of nearest relative as mother Mrs. Mary Ann Grieve, Kilrenny, Anstruther, Fife. Going to join friend Mr. Currellay, RR1, Munro, Ontario.


Frank Grieve
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Age:
30
Birth Year:
abt 1900
Birth Country:
Scotland
Date of Arrival:
17 May 1930
Vessel:
Duchess of Atholl
Port of Arrival:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure:
Greenock, Scotland

Is this him returning to Scotland? H's heading to Kilrenny, Anstruther, Fife. Says last permanent residence was USA.


Frank Robert Grieve
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Birth Date:
abt 1899
Age:
29
Port of Departure:
Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date:
27 Oct 1928
Port of Arrival:
Liverpool, England
Ship Name:
Duchess of Atholl

That looks good, MargaretM.

I don,t see a marriage or death for him in Scotland.

There's a 1934 marriage between a Frank R Grieve and an Agnes Gilligan in Manchester, but that's probably Frank Robertson Grieve, born Chorlton 1908.

Frank Grieve of Kilrenny returned to Canada in 1930, leaving Greenock on 10 May, heading for Quebec on Duchess of Atholl. [EDIT: 23/7/17 - Just noticed you've already posted this, MargaretM.]

Sorry, using my tablet and haven't got the hang of copying and pasting on it!

EDIT:
Also from Greenock to Montreal in 1950, farmer Frank Grieve 1899, East Gilston Mains, Leven, Fife. With wife (?) Iola, 44. Arrived Liverpool in Sept, left Oct.

Wife is Iola Clark Grieve.

Per voters lists, Iola (lab tech) and Frank (carpenter) in Wellington, Ontario in 1965.

Don't know if this is the right Frank or not. No middle initial, so maybe not.

Thanks argyllgran, Margaretm,so he maybe went to Canada, but what you have found, wonder if married to this Lola? How to I get into death records for Canada, Montreal / Quebec?
How do I get into Canadian census ? Thanks very helpful
Helen