William Swift/Houghton b1850c WhistonLancashire

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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,008 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	17 Jan 2018 21:36
	Tying up loose ends ............. from the GRO Index ....... HOUGHTON, ELLEN mmn FORSHAW GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 717 death??? HOUGHTON, ELLEN 4 GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 492 from lancs opc Burial: 24 Mar 1844 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Ellen Houghton - Age: 4 Abode: Whiston Buried by: W. S. Vawdrey Register: Burials 1836 - 1846, Page 213, Entry 1701 Source: LDS Film 1657597
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	17 Jan 2018 21:37
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Thankyou again. Yes I did notice about Joseph. I would say the mother was probably Ellen. Adam and Elizabeth had an Ellen who i think probably died as she didn't appear on the 1851 census. Elizabeth then had an Ellen again when she was married to John Swift
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	17 Jan 2018 21:37
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Oh thankyou re Ellen details
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	17 Jan 2018 22:20
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Am now thinking Elizabeth married William had Peter Later married William's brother Adam and had Margaret Is it possible to find out if William or Adam was Ellen's Dad Do you think this is correct?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,008 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	18 Jan 2018 00:38
	You would have to buy Ellen's birth certificate to see who was named as father ......
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,008 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	18 Jan 2018 03:24
	Alviegal .............. I've just spotted this, it CAN'T be right! Posted 17 Jan 2018 20:58 f this is Peter's marriage he has his father as Adam. Adam in 1841 is described as an engineer. Marriage: 12 May 1844 St Luke (formerly St Wilfrid), Farnworth (Widnes), Lancashire, England Peter Houghton - (X), full age, Engineer, Bachelor, Whiston Elizabeth Baldwin - of full age, Spinster, Whiston Groom's Father: Adam Houghton, Labourer Bride's Father: Zachariah Baldwin, Office clerk Witness: Elizabeth Houghton, (X); Hugh Lucas Married by Banns by: JD Latiward, curate Register: Marriages 1837 - 1845, Page 210, Entry 419 Source: LDS Film 1655236 But Peter was born 1837ish and William died 1839 so possibly he felt he was closer to Adam? - - - - - Peter cannot marry in 1844 if he was born around 1837! ------------------------- from lancs opc Baptism: 10 Mar 1837 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England Peter Houghton - Son of William Houghton & Elizabeth Abode: Whiston Occupation: Collier Baptised by: C. G. T. Driffield Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 81, Entry 644 Source: LDS Film 1657583
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	18 Jan 2018 07:37
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	This is getting more confusing by the hour!! Will have another look at it all later. Thankyou to you all for your help. If any body has any more ideas/help they will be very gratefully received.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	18 Jan 2018 11:46
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	OOPs Sylvia you are so right! I wonder if this Peter may be Adam's brother, both sons of Adam. In any case, just ignore this Elizabeth as it is getting further away from your original question. I will edit my posting. Thanks again Sylvia :-D
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	18 Jan 2018 13:06
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Ha ha thankyou Sylvia!! This is all so confusing!! It is William I wanted to sort..however the whole family seem confusing!! I have a lovely photo of William..the 1850 one..with his wife. Thankyou for your help.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	18 Jan 2018 13:08
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Sorry Alviegal..thankyou to you too
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	19 Jan 2018 15:00
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	I have finally managed to sit down and have a look at this again. Is there a way to see a baptism/ birth for William and Adam to see if they were brothers..ie had the same parents? Thank you
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Elizabeth	Report	30 Mar 2018 14:58
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 605 Send Message	Hi all I have access to Liverpool parish records this weekend... Can anyone give me an idea what I should be looking for re William Houghton I have found the parish baptism record that just mentions his mother Help..so confused :-(

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