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Ancestors of Alice Maud Styles (Stiles).

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Edward

Edward Report 25 Jan 2018 16:43

Hi I am looking for any information about Alice Maud Styles (Stiles), born 1876 in Portsea Island, from what I have been told she was disowned by her family, the only info I have is that she married my father in-laws grandfather George Henry Sanders in 1896, nobody seems to have any idea why she was disowned, any help would be most grateful.

Edward.

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 16:51

For ref
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Charles Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England

George Styles Head Married Male 47 1844 Surrey, England Engineers Labourer
Elizabeth Styles Wife Married Female 43 1848 Hampshire, England -
Alice M Styles Daughter - Female 14 1877 Eastney, Hampshire, England -
Emily J Styles Daughter - Female 10 1881 Hampshire, England -
Kitty J Styles Daughter In Law Married Female 19 1872 Hampshire, England -
Charles R G Styles Grandson - Male 0 1891 Hampshire, England -
Sophie A Styles Daughter In Law Married Female 24 1867 Hampshire, England -
Alice M A Styles Granddaughter - Female 0 1891 Eastney, Hampshire, England - Transcription

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 16:53

Was she previously married?


Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages

First name(s) Alice Maud
Last name Styles
Age 20
Birth year 1875
Denomination Anglican
Marital status Spinster
Occupation Dressmaker
Residence Portsea
Marriage year 1895
Marriage date 14 Oct 1895
Marriage place Southsea, St Bartholomew
Dedication St Bartholomew
Licence or banns Banns
Spouse's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's last name Cooke
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's birth year 1873
Spouse's marital status Bachelor
Spouse's occupation Clerk
Spouse's residence Southsea
Father's first name(s) George
Father's last name Styles
Father's occupation Labourer
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's father's last name Cooke
Spouse's father's occupation Solicitor's Clerk
Witness 1 George Styles
Witness 2 Hester Cooke
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Marriages
Register year range 1891-1900
Archive reference CHU 32/1B/2
Archive Portsmouth History Centre
Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 16:55

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)

Sanders George Henry S. Molton 5b 839
Stiles Alice Maud M S Molton 5b 839

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:08

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ivy Cottage Charles Bottom Cottage, Charles, South Molton, Devon, England

George Sanders Jr Head Married Male 30 1871 Charles, Devon, England Ord Agric Labourer
Alice Sanders Wife Married Female 26 1875 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England -
Edwin Sanders Son - Male 4 1897 Charles, Devon, England
William Sanders Son - Male 3 1898 Charles, Devon, England
Ellen Sanders Daughter - Female 1 1900 Charles, Devon, England

birth to confirm mmnSANDERS, EDWIN SANDERS mmn STILES Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 433

malyon

malyon Report 25 Jan 2018 17:14

could that marriage be' this alice maud she was born about the same time

Births Dec 1876 (>99%) this alice



STYLES
Alice Maud M

Eastry
2a
891

Births Dec 1876

STYLES
Alice Maud

Portsea
2b
464

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:20

Could well be, the birth of Sanders children all seem to have mmn spelling Stiles
SANDERS, ELLEN MARIA STILES Order
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 402


SANDERS, WILLIAM GEORGE STILES Order
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 413

so would need to be sure of whether there is another Alice Stiles, with that spelling?

malyon

malyon Report 25 Jan 2018 17:26

this alice is married to George cooke

Alice Maud Cooke
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name:
Alice Maud Cooke
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Portsmouth, Southsea, Hampshire, England
County:
Hampshire
Parish:
Portsmouth
Sub-District:
Kingston And East Southsea
Registration District:
Portsmouth
Gender:
Female
Age:
34
Marital Status (Original):
MARRIED
Birth Year (Estimated):
1877
Birthplace:
Eastney Portsmouth
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Line:
2
Page:
1
Years of Marriage:
15
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Edward Cooke
Head
Male
38
Dalston London, London
Alice Maud Cooke
Wife
Female
34
Eastney Portsmouth
Edward George Cooke
Son
Male
14
Southsea Portsmouth
Walter Charles Cooke
Son
Male
12
Southsea Portsmouth
Ernest Frederick Cooke
Son
Male
10
Southsea Portsmouth
Gladys Maud Cooke
Daughter
Female
8
Southsea Portsmouth
Lilian May Cooke
Daughter
Female
5
Southsea Portsmouth

malyon

malyon Report 25 Jan 2018 17:29

in 1901
Alice M Cooke
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
Alice M Cooke
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
County:
Hampshire
Civil Parish:
Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Bartholomew
Sub-District:
Portsmouth And Mid Southsea
Registration District:
Portsmouth
Residence Note:
Cleveland Road
Gender:
Female
Age:
24
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1877
Birthplace:
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Schedule Type:
21
Page Number:
3
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Edward Cooke
Head
Male
27
Dalston, London
Alice M Cooke
Wife
Female
24
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Edward G Cooke
Son
Male
4
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Walter C Cooke
Son
Male
2
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Ernest F Cooke
Son
Male
0
Portsmouth, Hampshire

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:30

Birth of one of the Cooke children confirms mmn as Styles

COOKE, GLADYS MAUD STYLES Order
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 524

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jan 2018 17:31

Below from google search...

Chris :)

http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/RMAEastney81-2.html

(ROYAL MARINE ARTILLERY BARRACKS, EASTNEY, HAMPSHIRE - PART 2
Married Quarters)

1881
George STYLES M 37 M Merrow, Surrey, England Gunner R M Artillery
Elizabeth STYLES M 33 F New Forest, Hampshire, England Gunner Wife
George James STYLES 13 M Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Errand Boy
Charles STYLES 10 M Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Scholar
Alice Maud STYLES 4 F Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter
Emily Jane STYLES 5 m F Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter


Birth
STYLES, ALICE MAUD (WHITE)
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464


Birth
STYLES, EMILY JANE (WHITE)
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 518

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:37

Edward do you have the marriage cert for Alice to George Sanders? Does it give an occupation for her father please?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jan 2018 17:47

Below?...

Chris :)

25 September 1896 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Marriage
Sanders - Stiles - Sept. 19, at the Wesleyan Church, Southmolton, George Henry Sanders, of Charles, to Alice Maud Mary Stiles, of the same place.


(other one)

Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Alice Maud Mary
Last name Styles
Birth date 03 Sep
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 30 Oct 1876
Place Sandwich, St Clement
Father's first name(s) William Thomas (occ. Bricklayer)
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
County Kent


(another)

Birth
STYLES, ALICE MAUDE MARY (PAYNE)
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 301

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:48

Alice Sanders in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Village Charles South Molton, Charles, Devon, England

Alice Sanders Head Widow Female 34 1877 Hampshire Portsmouth -
William Sanders Son - Male 13 1898 Devonshire Charles At School
Ellen Sanders Daughter - Female 10 1901 Devonshire Charles At School
Alice Sanders Daughter - Female 9 1902 Devonshire Charles
Emily Sanders Daughter - Female 7 1904 Devonshire Charles -
Frederick Sanders Son - Male 1 1910 Devonshire Charles -

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 17:55

The last two daughters named in 1911 have apparently mistransribed mmn

SANDERS, EMILY WINIFRED mmn STOYLES Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 394

SANDERS, ALICE MAUD mmn STOYLE Order
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 409

as does Frederick

SANDERS, FREDERICK JOHN mmn HYLES Order
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 378

Edward

Edward Report 25 Jan 2018 17:59

Thanks for the replies so far, I don't think she was previously married and her parents weren't mentioned on the marriage certificate, I have been told that they did not know of the marriage.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jan 2018 18:21

Both Baptisms (Find My Past) at same time...(Parents, George/Elizabeth, his occ. Labourer. Abode, 21 Exmouth Road)

Chris :)

Styles Alice Maud 1885 Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms Milton, Hampshire, England

Styles Emily Jane 1885 Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms Milton, Hampshire,
England


Styles Emily Jane 1880 — 1900 Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages Southsea, St Peter, Hampshire, England (Spouse, Ernest George Parker)


(notes Witness on above as Alice Maud Cooke. Father, George Styles, occ. Labourer)


1901 (Find My Past)
Ernest G Parker Head Married Male 21 1880 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Fitter's Labourer
Emily J Parker Wife Married Female 20 1881 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England -
21, Cornwall Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire,


1911 (Find My Past)
Ernest Parker Head Married Male 31 1880 Hampshire Portsmouth Engine Fitter's Help
Emily Parker Wife Married Female 30 1881 Hampshire Portsmouth
5 Middlesex Road Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Jan 2018 18:24

I wonder?

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
STOYLES Alice Ann M Plymouth 5b 277

No def not

STOYLES, ALICE ANN MARY WAY Order
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 277

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jan 2018 18:54

From 1895 Marriage reference posted earlier, perhaps the Edward...

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past)
Sarah Fryer Head Widow Female 74 1817 Hampshire, England Living On Her Means
Edward Cooke Brother In Law Single Male 18 1873 London (Dalston) Middlesex, England Railway Clerk
Highfield Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Jan 2018 18:57

Edward, what does it say for her on 1896 Marriage (Spinster etc.)...

Witnesses?...

Chris :)

(if George below)


Devon Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Henry George
Last name Sanders
Baptism year 1870
Baptism date 01 Feb 1870
Baptism place Charles
Father's first name(s) George (occ. Labourer)
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Residence Kitesnest
County Devon
Description Charles Baptisms 1837-1915


Sanders George 1870 1909 (Devon Burials Charles, Devon, England (Find My Past)


(if her below, and mistaken with May!)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

The Village , South Molton R.D., Devon,
Alice Sanders 11 May 1876 Female Housewife Married (W on image)


Birth
STYLES, ALICE MAUD (WHITE)
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464


1901 (Find My Past) (and 1911 below, Census references posted earlier)

Edward Cooke Head Married Male 27 1874 Dalston, Middlesex, England Railway Booking Clerk
Alice M Cooke Wife Married Female 24 1877 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England -
Edward G Cooke Son - Male 4 1897 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England -
Walter C Cooke Son - Male 2 1899 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England -
Ernest F Cooke Son - Male 0 1901 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
33, Cleveland Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire,


1911
Edward Cooke Head Married Male 38 1873 Dalston London Railway Booking Clerk
Alice Maud Cooke Wife Married Female 34 1877 Eastney Portsmouth -
Edward George Cooke Son - Male 14 1897 Southsea Portsmouth School
Walter Charles Cooke Son - Male 12 1899 Southsea Portsmouth School
Ernest Frederick Cooke Son - Male 10 1901 Southsea Portsmouth School
Gladys Maud Cooke Daughter - Female 8 1903 Southsea Portsmouth School
Lilian May Cooke Daughter - Female 5 1906 Southsea Portsmouth School
61 Telephone Road Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire,
(says Married 15yrs, 5 children born, 5 living)


Birth
COOKE, ERNEST FREDERICK (STYLES)
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 490


(and Alice Maud Cooke a Witness at Marriage of her Sister Emily Jane Styles 1900!)


(notes 1911 Alice Sanders (Charles, Devon) says 14yrs for 'Completed years the present Marriage has lasted' 7 children born, 7 living)


(below I posted earlier)

25 September 1896 - Western Times - Exeter, Devon, England

Marriage
Sanders - Stiles - Sept. 19, at the Wesleyan Church, Southmolton, George Henry Sanders, of Charles, to Alice Maud Mary Stiles, of the same place.


(a 'head scratcher methinks, if not a headache, lol)