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My great great grandfather was Christopher Greenaway (1857-1919). His father was Christopher, and so was his grandfather. Unfortunately I have been unable to find out much about the other Christopher’s or their wives.
So Christopher was married to Elizabeth Jones ( 1854-1904) and then later Lavinia Emily Baker (1857-1926). Christopher and Elizabeth had 3 sons, and I know about them, but I can’t find out anything about Elizabeth Jones....Jones is rather popular in Wales!!!
Christopher 2 (1823-?) and his wife Leah Davies had 8 children. I found them on 1861 and 1871 census, but no date of death, and no history of Leah.
Christopher 3 (1798-?) and Kathleen Matthias (1800-?) I know nothing about.
Can anyone help me with these Welsh relatives please?
Thank you
Glyn

What details does it give for Elizabeth on Marriage Cert.?...

(you say Elizabeth died 1904?)

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
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Greenway Christopher Merthyr Tydfil 11a 590
Jones Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 590


Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Baker Lavinia Emily Pontypridd 11a 873
Greenaway Christopher Pontypridd 11a 873

Chris :)

http://newspapers.library.wales/

(anything on above, small item for him 1919)


Deaths Sep 1919 (>99%)
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GREENAWAY Christopher 62 Bridgend 11a 679


Edits

1901 (Find My Past) (reference)
Christopher Greenaway Head Married Male 44 1857 Merthyr, Glamorganshire, Wales Coal Miner Hewer
Elizabeth Greenaway Wife Married Female 47 1854 Wales -
William Greenaway Son Single Male 21 1880 Wales Coal Miner Hewer
John Greenaway Son - Male 15 1886 Dowlais, Glamorganshire, Wales Coal Miner Hewer
Edward Greenaway Son - Male 12 1889 Ynysybwl, Glamorganshire, Wales
13, Paget Street, Ynysybwl, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire


1911
George H Redler Boarder Single Male 26 1885 Bristol Coal Miner Hewer
Christopher Greenaway Head Married Male 54 1857 Glam Merthyr Coal Mine Hewer
Lavinia Greenaway Wife Married Female 54 1857 Toms (Soms) Bristol
4 Windsor Place Ynysybwl, Llanwonno, Glamorganshire,
(says Married 8 yrs, no children)


1891
Christopher Greenary Head Married Male 35 1856 Glamorganshire, Wales Coal Miner Windsor Pit
Elizabeth Greenary Wife Married Female 35 1856 Caernarvonshire, Wales
William Greenary Son Single Male 11 1880 Glamorganshire, Wales Scholar
John Greenary Son Single Male 4 1887 Glamorganshire, Wales Scholar
Edward Greenary Son Single Male 1 1890 Glamorganshire, Wales -
William Jones Lodger Single Male 30 1861 Glamorganshire, Wales Coalminer Windsor Pit
Paget Street, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire,


1881
Charles (Chris) Grimsway Or Grunsway Head Married Male 23 1858 Merthyr, Glamorganshire, Wales Coal Haulier
Eliza Grimsway Or Grunsway Wife Married Female 23 1858 Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales
William Grimsway Or Grunsway Son Single Male 1 1880 Bangor, Caernarvonshire,
11, Bk Coed Lae, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire,


http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/index.php

(so if North Wales for her, she should be on above!)

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Street, Gellygaer, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Christopher Greenway Head Married Male 37 1824 Collier Coalman Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Leah Greenway Wife Married Female 35 1826 - Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Mary Greenway Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Scholar Glyntawe, Glamorgan, Wales
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Richard Greenway Son Unmarried Male 10 1851 Scholar Rixon, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Thomas Greenway Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Glamorgan, Wales
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Christopher Greenway Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Glamorgan, Wales
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Enoch Greenway Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Glamorgan, Wales

on census mary is crossed out and leah is wrote in

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) CHRISTOPHER
Last name GREENWAY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1850
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CHRISTOPHER GREENWAY married one of these people
Mary Davies, Margaret Isaac, Catharine Richards
District Merthyr Tydfil
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 26
Volume as transcribed 26
Page number 555
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

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Marriages Mar 1850 (>99%)
Doyle James Merthyr T 26 535
Evans Mary Merthyr Tyd 26 535
Greenway Christopher Merthyr T 26 535
Kerr Charles Conway Merthyr Tl. 26 535
Lewis David Merthyr T 26 535
Lloyd Margaret Merthyr T 26 535
Morgan William Merthyr T. 26 535
Price Ann Merthyr T 26 535
Rogers Jane Merthyr T 26 535
Thomas James Narberth 26 535
Williams Edward Merthyr T. 26 535

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1850 (>99%)
Davies Joseph Merthyr Tyd 26 555
>>>>>>>Davies Lea Merthyr Tyd 26 555
Davies Mary Merthyr T 26 555
Doyle James Merthyr T 26 555
Evans Mary Merthyr Tyd 26 555
>>>>>>>Greenway Christopher Merthyr T 26 555
Isaac Margaret Merthyr T. 26 555
Morris John Merthyr T 26 555
Richards Catharine Merthyr T 26 555


Andy

I think this is Christopher and Leah in 1851 with daughter Mary, despite what the census says. 2nd opinions welcome



in the 1851 Wales Census




Name: Christopher Cunaway
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdare, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 2n
Piece: 2460
Folio: 412
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
David Jones 25
Mary Jones 25
David Jones 1
Christopher Cunaway 24
Link Cunaway 23
Mary Cunaway 1

Andy

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Street, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Jones Head Married Male 25 1826 Plate Layer Marsett, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Marey Jones - - Female 25 1826 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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David Jones - - Male 1 1850 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Christopher Cunaway Lodger Unmarried Male 24 1827 Collier Monmouthshire, Wales
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Leah Cunaway Brother Married Male 23 1828 - Keswick, Cumberland, England
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Marey Cunaway Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Rudry, Monmouthshire, Wales
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John Curley Lodger Married Male 25 1826 Excavator Keswick, Cumberland, England
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Elizabeth Curly Wife - Female 19 1832 Excavator Llandaff, Glamorgan, Wales

possible death?

First name(s) CHRISTOPHER
Last name GRINWAY
Gender Male
Birth year 1831
Age 60
Death quarter 1
Death year 1891
District Merthyr Tydfil
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A Page 382

Off track, but just because I came across it - Christopher & Leah's daughter Mary's death:

Mary Evans
Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
Name: Mary Evans
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 17 Jul 1912
Event Place: Lawrence Twp., Stark, Ohio
Residence Place: Lawrence Twp., Stark, Ohio
Gender: Female
Age: 63
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Occupation: Domestic
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1849
Birthplace: Wales
Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Burial Date: 19 Jul 1912
Burial Place: Newmans Creek Chapel, North Lawrence, O.
Father's Name: Christofer Greenaway
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Name: Leah Davis
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Spouse's Name: Evans


Cause of death: diabetes mellitus.

The image doesn't say if her parents were deceased or not. (But probably were, by that time.)

Not seeing a death for Elizabeth in 1904- as Chris says, you have Christopher's second marriage in 1903.

Wondered if this was Elizabeth's death:

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name GRONOWAY
Gender Female
Birth year 1854
Age 47
Death quarter 3
Death year 1901
District Pontypridd
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A Page 276

If Leah's POB as given in 1861 census is correct, this might be a possibility for her in 1841.

"Nantyglo is a village in the ancient parish of Aberystruth " - per Wikipedia.


Leah Davies
in the 1841 Wales Census
Name: Leah Davies
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Aberystruth
Hundred: Abergavenny (Upper Division)
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 742
Book: 6
Folio: 19
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
John Davies 40
Amelia Davies 40
Ruth Davies 15
Harriett Davies 15
Leah Davies 14
Caroline Davies 11
Enock Davies 10

Ages are out, but this appears to be them in 1881:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Edwards Court, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

Christopher Greenaway Head Married Male 67 1814 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales Collier
Sarah Greenaway Wife Married Female 60 1821 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales -
Samuel Greenaway Son Single Male 13 1868 Pontlottyn, Monmouthshire, Wales Collier

Could be that Death AQ, have just added 1901 to posting above, right area!...

Edits (though 1901 taken 31st March...and she is on it!)


Would need details from 1877 Marriage Cert. I would say...(Elizabeth Jones, Wales, phew!)

(not seeing anything Parish Records FMP)

Chris :)

(awaits Glyn)

Thanks Chris- the Elizabeth Gronoway death is 3rd qtr- so she would still be recorded on 1901 census.

(lol, sorry AQ, was thinking March!, right back to garden for me, making the most of this bit of sun!)

Chris :)

Wow thanks folks. I don’t have the marriage certificate Chris. Haven’t got that far.
The newspaper site you recommended was helpful. Thanks
I’m amazed how many different spellings Greenaway gets given!!!
I haven’t followed up on all of the details yet, but the 1841 census for Leah is very helpful and the info about Mary Greenaway. Didn’t know that.
AQ no that’s not my relative. I did think Sarah and Christopher were at one time, and spend some time pursuing that lead, but no.
My biggest problem is that each generation had lots of children, and Samuel, Edward, Christopher, and John in particular appear once, twice or even three times in the same generation as the sons call their children by the same names!!!
They all seem to be in Monmouthshire and Glamorgan areas, and are all miners!!
So, forgive the pun, it’s a minefield trying to work out who is directly related to me.
You’ve all done amazingly well so far.
Whether I will find out more than Christopher and Leah I’m not sure.
All I have for the next generation is Christopher 1798 and Kathleen Mathias 1800, but that’s not confirmed.
Definitely Elizabeth sounds right for her death as I checked back through my facts, and found I’d written after 1901 not 1904 as I misread it.
I don’t think the 1831 DOB for Christopher is my relative either AQ.
I appreciate all the suggestions and will try to follow those through. Any more please keep them coming. Thanks
Glyn

More about Mary Evans nee Greenaway, just for interest, in case you didn't have this:

Mary Evans
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Mary Evans
Age in 1910: 61
Birth Year: abt 1849
Birthplace: Wales
Home in 1910: Lawrence, Stark, Ohio
Street: High Street
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1875
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John T Evans
Father's Birthplace: Wales
Mother's Birthplace: Wales
Native Tongue: English
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Years Married: 41
Number of Children Born: 8
Number of Children Living: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Evans 68
Mary Evans 61

Well, that 1877 Cert. is needed!...(bit difficult to trace back without Certs., to get facts, you could easily end up on the wrong track seems a few Christopher's about then!)

Chris :)

I'm surprised that the 1881 census is not correct. I don't see another birth for Samuel Greenaway/ Greenway in the area at that time.

GREENWAY, SAMUEL (mmn: DAVIES)
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 318
(This child died 1866)

GREENWAY, SAMUEL (mmn: DAVIES )
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 332

If that is not your Samuel on the 1881 census, then I'm having trouble spotting him- unless he's transcribed under a variation I haven't tried.