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Riley54

Riley54 Report 1 Jun 2018 10:18

I only have the mothers name for George which is Sarah Peace born 1798

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:33

Re Robin -

perhaps we need to go back to page 1, where Catherine posted the 1911 for Robin 1934's father Henry H Peace, whose father was a John William Peace.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:36

The family in 1901:

John W Peace
in the 1901 England Census
Name: John W Peace
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Henrietta Peace
Birth Place: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Horninglow
Ecclesiastical parish: Horninglow St John
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors:
Piece: 2646
Folio: 98
Page Number: 15
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Peace 40
Henrietta Peace 38
John W Peace 9
Dorothy M Peace 6
Herbert A Peace 2
Henry H Peace 1
Ada Elson 14


John Wm Peace
in the 1891 England Census
Name: John Wm Peace
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1861
Spouse: Henrietta Peace
Child: Elizabeth Peace
Birth Place: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Horninglow
Residence Place: Horninglow, Staffordshire, England
Sub registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, Institution or Vessel: 37
Neighbors:
Piece: 2205
Folio: 129
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wm Peace 30
Henrietta Peace 29
Elizabeth Peace 11/12


John W. Peace
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John W. Peace
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: John Peace
Mother: Elizth. Peace
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton On Trent
Civil Parish: Horninglow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Derby Rd
Occupation: Accts Clerk
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors:
Piece: 2765
Folio: 59
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
John Peace 47
Elizth. Peace 44
John W. Peace 20
Mary A. Peace 19
Henry L. Peace 17
Sarah Wardley 48

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:37

Not bothering to post 1871.

John William Pease
in the 1861 England Census
Name: John William Pease
Age: 11/12
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Pease
Mother's name: Elizabeth Pease
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burton upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Burton upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 227
Piece: 1966
Folio: 41
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pease 27
Elizabeth Pease 24
John William Pease 11/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:38

John W's parents' marriage:

John Peace
in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
Name: John Peace
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1834
Marriage Date: 3 Feb 1859
Marriage Place: Burton upon trent, Staffordshire, England
Father: William Peace
Spouse: Elizabeth Simnett

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:41

His father's baptism ??

John Peace

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
15 September 1833
HOLY TRINITY, BURTON UPON TRENT, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
father:
William Peace
mother:
Martha

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:43


John Peace
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Peace
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's name: Wm Peace
Mother's name: Martha Peace
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burton upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Burton upon Trent
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 134
Piece: 2012
Folio: 220
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Peace 44 - born Burton-on-Trent
Martha Peace 42
Frances Peace 20
John Peace 17
Wm Josh Peace 12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:50

Sigh -
the more I look at the records, the more Staffordshire seems to have been over-run by various Peace families!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Jun 2018 13:49

Dermot- you mentioned Robin's funeral. Do you know the approximate year?

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 14:12

It would appear to be this one Austin??

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Order death certificate for Robin Peace

Report issue

Name: Robin Peace
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1934
Registration Date: Jun 1999
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Register Number: A69A
District and Subdistrict: 6891A

I would certainly be tempted to buy that death cert.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 14:15

Sorry, I have lost track - who have you got related to George + Alice please ?

I know they are the grandparents of the 'sherrif of Nottingham' one but do we have them connected somewhere else ???

Dea x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Jun 2018 14:18

I just thought it odd that Dermot had said birth around 1926.

1934 is quite a difference. That combined with this snippet- which would suggest there was an older Robin in Warsop Vale makes me wonder:

http://www.warsopvale.org/history3.htm

There have been some excellent sportsmen and celebrities within the village and sport in general has flourished throughout the years. The village was fortunate enough to have many stalwarts of football including Walter Millership who went to Bradford and then Sheffield Wednesday and played for England in the 1935 match against Scotland.

T. Cooke went to Mansfield along with Harry and Harold Everett who had previously been with Notts County, Jimmy West went to Rotherham and Bournemouth F.C. took J. Hayward and H. Hayward. H. Goddard went to Aston Villa, Lenny Thorpe and Robin Peace went to Nottingham Forest and Steve Unwin went to Notts County. At the end of the 1940-41 season no fewer than seven players went to the league clubs.
------------------------------

So I wondered if Dermot could remember the approximate year of the funeral

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 14:24

Ahhhh.... Well done Austin !!!!!!!!!

Dea x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Jun 2018 14:36

Thanks Dea- but it doesn't seem to help. I don't see any other reference to him as a footballer. Maybe Robin wasn't his real name? Or maybe Robin wasn't included in the seven that went to league teams before 1941?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 15:23

I had wondered about this one earlier, but had dismissed it - if Robin wasn't his real name.

This one's a son of George and Alice:

Ronald S Peace
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ronald S Peace
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1925 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 28 Cout North St
Residence Place: Warsop, Nottinghamshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Surface Screen Worker
Schedule Number: 28
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: RNRE
Registration district: 428-1
Inferred Father: George Peace
Inferred Mother: Alice Peace
Household Members:
Name
John W Peace
Ronald S Peace
Charles Stretton
George Peace
Alice Peace



Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Peace Ronald S (mms Stretton) Mansfield 7b 121


Ronald Stretton Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ronald Stretton Peace
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1925
Registration Date: Mar 2004
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Register Number: B33D
District and Subdistrict: 687/1B

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 15:40

If that's him, then his brother John W was possibly the father of Sir John who was mentioned by the woman who was at Robin's funeral.

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 15:56

I have been looking at him as a possible too AG and yes - his brother IS the father of 'the Sherrif' !!

Dea x

Riley54

Riley54 Report 1 Jun 2018 16:25

Sorry I've been missing.

I said around 1926 because my Dad had told me he was a bit younger than him and Dad was born in 1928.

I can't remember the year he died unfortunately .

I will order the death certificate.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 16:26

He may have married in Mansield in 1953 (without his middle initial).

If so, his widow was living in Mansfield as at 2016 ER.

They had five children, all born in Mansfield, except the first, who was born in 1952.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Jun 2018 16:34

Dermot- you said:

"Dad had told me he was a bit younger than him and Dad was born in 1928."

Did you mean older? 1926 would make him older than your Dad