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Just as a correction from the previous thread
Nicola you stated that your grandfather was Frederick Frances RIcketts b 1910

There is an error on Freebmd

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
RICKETT Frederick Frances Holborn 1b 639

This should be Frederick John as per the original scan and the GRO record

I have submitted a correction and added a postem to Freebmd

I don't remember mentioning a birth of my grandmother in 1910 or the name Frederick Francis Ricketts? It must have been s long time ago before I had the certificates, it is certainly not relevant now. It is mentioned more than once that he was born in At Pancreas/ Camden. As for the birth dates for Henry and Frederick being the same day and month, I hadn't noticed, it is surely a extraordinary coincidence and a good one

this was from the post on your other thread Nicola from 3 years ago

my grand father was Frederick Frances Rickett born march 1910, Holborn as above in 1911 census. with parents George Rickett born 1877 and Mary Ann Clarke, married 1900 in Holborn.

So on that birth he is actually Frederick John - the middle name does seem to change a lot if I have read this thread correctly

And that Frederick John appears to have died in 1912

If you mean below Death...(instead of 1952)

Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%)
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RICKETTS Albert 74 Islington 5c 689


Burial Register summary

Ricketts Albert
11 July 1951
Location Islington

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(Henrietta 1922 there also)

(credits bought on above, will show you the scan)

Chris :)

Edits (not sure if below relates, or has been mentioned anywhere in both 'Threads')

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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RICKETT WILLIAM R CLARKE Holborn 1b 1142


Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Rickett William R 0 Islington 1b 223


Birth
RICKETT, FREDERICK JOHN CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 639

Birth
RICKETT, ALICE MAY CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 650

RICKETTS, MARY ANN AMELIA CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 696

Yes Chris ho, that is the death I think is my GT grandfather. I have had a long chat with my mum and she is convinced that her father Frederick Alfred Ricketts and Henry Alfred Ricketts that AustinQ found are the same person. I have searched and many of you with more experience have searched and found no overlap of these to men. I have ordered the death cert for Albert in 1951, Islington to see who registered the death in the hope it will go some way to confirm I am finally on the right track.

Deaths Dec 1912

Rickett Frederick J 2 Holborn 1b 719

Was the death I was posting about


I think those 3 children were the children of George Rickett(s) and MARY Ann Clarke

He is also on below link (as mentioned before, purchasing credits will allow you to see a scan of Register)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Chris :)

Burial Register summary
Rickett Frederick John
Burial date 24 October 1912
Location Camden

Can anyone find Henry Alfred Ricketts siblings? Henrietta born 1900? Ivy Lydia born 1904 looks like her death in 1922 and Nellie married Sidney Fowler and had son Kenneth in 1934( only one I found but no marriage for him? and we know Albert William born 1915 died in 1945.

So this would be below couple, the Parents...

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Ricketts Albert Westminster 1a 1121
Salter Henrietta Westminster 1a 1121


Westminster Marriages (Find My Past)

First Name Henreetta (Spinster)
Last name Salter
Age 20
Birth year 1878
Marriage year 1898
Parish St Anne, Soho
Spouse's first name(s) Albert (Bachelor occ. Bricklayer)
Spouse's last name Ricketts
Spouse age 22
Spouse's birth year 1876
Father's first name(s) Henry (occ. Gardener)
Father's last name Salter
Spouse's father's first name(s) Albert (occ. Painter)
Spouse's father's last name Ricketts
County Middlesex
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
(Residence at Time, him, 122, Newport Rd. her 55, Newport Rd. wits. Henry Charles Cooper, Maggie Fleming)


Edits (AQ posted earlier, below)

Birth:
RICKETTS, HENRY ALFRED (mother's maiden name: SALTER)
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 64

(I don't see any other records for a Henry Alfred Ricketts after the 1911 census- unless I'm missing it)

1911:

Street address: 28 Sidney Street, St Pancras
Name Age
Albert Ricketts Head 34 Building Trade Brompton
Henrietta Ricketts Wife 32 Westminster
Henrietta Ellen Ricketts daughter 11 St Pancras
Nelly Elizabeth Ricketts daughter 9 St Pancras
Ivy Lydia Ricketts daughter 7 St Pancras
Henry Alfred Ricketts son 4 St Pancras

(adds below)

1901 (Find My Past)
Albert Rickett Head Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayers Labr Brompton
Henriette Rickett Wife Married Female 23 1878 - London, England
Henrietta Rickett Daughter - Female 1 1900 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
28, Sidney Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex


(from AQ earlier)

Baptism of later child:
Name: Albert William Ricketts
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1915
Baptism Date: 28 1915
Baptism Place: Saint Pancras Parish Church, Camden, England
Father: Albert Ricketts -HOUSE PAINTER
Mother: Henrietta Ricketts
Abode: 25 Drummond Crescent
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Marriage of Nelly Elizabeth:

Name: Nellie Elizabeth Ricketts
Residence: 257 Hampton Road
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1902
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1929
Marriage Place: St Matthew, St Pancras, Camden, England
Father: Albert Ricketts- PAINTER
Spouse: Sidney James Fowler


Name: Ivy Lydia Ricketts
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1904 (Born July 4th 1904)
Baptism Place: Somers Town St Mary the Virgin, Camden, England
Father:Albert Ricketts
Mother: Henrietta Ricketts


Name: Henrietta Ellen Ricketts
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date:20 Sep 1899 (Born July 6th 1899)
Baptism Place: St Pancras St Saviour, Camden, England
Father: Albert Ricketts
Mother: Henrietta Ricketts


Name: Nelly Elizabeth Ricketts
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Feb 1902 (Born Dec. 30th 1901)
Baptism Place: Somers Town St Mary the Virgin, Camden, England
Father: Albert Ricketts
Mother: Henrietta Ricketts


(not below Marriages, images checked)

Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Ricketts Henrietta E Agg Paddington 1a 95


Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
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Ricketts Ivy L Buckle Pancras 1b 9


(if you mean below Death)


Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%)
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Ricketts Ivy 19 Pancras 1b 76


Burial Register summary
Ricketts Ivy
Burial date 01 September 1923
Location Camden

(again, images can be viewed!, 1922 Electoral, Albert, 26, Drummond Street)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/


1891 (Find My Past)
Henry Salter Head Widower Male 55 1836 Gardener Somerset, England
Henrietta Salter Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Warren Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex

Well, this is Henrietta in 1939 (her birth date matches the birth date given on her baptism register entry:


Henrietta C Ricketts's life in 1939 (the intial 'C' is not clear on image and obviously should be 'E')
Darenth Park Darenth Park, Dartford R.D., Kent, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Henrietta C Ricketts 06 Jul 1899 Female None, Detained Under Mental Deficiency Acts Single 8 51
Ref: RG101/1813I/012/34 Letter Code: DJEG

She is in Darenth Park alongside hundreds of others! - You can read some info regarding the Hospital / School here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darenth_Park_Hospital

Dea x

In view of where she was in 1939, I wonder if this could be Henrietta's death?

Name: Henrietta L Ricketts
Death Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1900
Registration Date: Apr 1956
[May 1956]
[Jun 1956]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Dartford ***
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 418

Dea x

Saw below from FMP...(Birth for her not shouting out though!)...

Chris :)

Kent Burials
First Name Henrietta Louisa
Last name Ricketts
Birth year 1900
Age 56
Burial year 1956
Burial date 25 May 1956
Burial ground Darenth Asylum Cemetery
Place Darenth, Asylum Cemetery
County Kent
Document reference 656
Record set Kent Burials

It has to be 'our' Henrietta - we know she was in Darenth in 1939 as she had the correct date of birth on the index !

I cannot believe that they had 2 different Henrietta Ricketts' in there with dates of birth within a year of each other !! - It is not a common name and there is no birth reg, for a Henrietta Louisa to fit. - The death details must be incorrect !

Dea x

Below Records held at LMA (London Metropolitan Archives) might be worth a look!.

Darenth Park Hospital, Dartford
Admission & Discharge
1891 - 1986

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=36

Chris :)

(1930 (Electoral) Henrietts still at home, with Albert, Alice Elizabeth, 26, Drummond Crescent. 1932 Henrietta with Albert)


Edits (AQ posted below earlier)

Albert's wife Henrietta died in 1922 and Albert remarried in 1923 to Alice Elizabeth Cook. I think wife, Alice Elizabeth, died in 1930. From at least 1915- 1932 Albert lived at 26 Drummond Crescent, St Pancras.

(adds)

Burial Register summary
Ricketts Alice Eliz
Burial date 27 December 1930
Location Camden

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Taken awhile to look through this info but all sounds relevant.
It seems this is the right Henrietta in Dartford and not the one who married John Agg in 1918. Ivy Buckle living in islington(Loraine Buildings, my in 1939 with husband Robert Buckle, they had 3 children or was my Ivy the one that died in 1922 aged 19? I will get to the bottom of this, ordering more certs and still need to find Kenneth son of Nellie and Sidney Fowler born 1934. Thanks all

For our reference:

Kenneth J Fowler
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Name: Kenneth J Fowler
Registration Date: Jan 1934
[Feb 1934]
[Mar 1934]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Mother's Maiden Name: Ricketts
Volume Number: xx
Page Number: xxx

There's a possible marriage in Surrey in 1954, to a June E Fry.


Do you know what his middle initial stands for?
Or his exact date of birth?

No I don't, not sure I can order birth cert for living person( haven't found death), doesn't seem right anyway. Other births for Ivy Ricketts and Robert T Buckle are Ronald F Buckle born 1928, Holborn, Douglas R Buckle born 1930, Finsbury and Daphne F Buckle born 1938 Islington. I have ordered this Ivy's marriage cert to make sure the DOB and father are correct. It could be my Ivy that died in 1922.

I don't see Nellie and Sidney in 1939.


???
Sidney James Fowler
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sidney James Fowler
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1903
Registration Date: Dec 1990
Registration district: Windsor and Maidenhead
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 767


??
Nelly Elizabeth Fowler
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Nelly Elizabeth Fowler
Death Age: 91
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1901
Registration Date: Jan 1993
Registration district: Slough
Inferred County: Berkshire
Register Number: B16C
District and Subdistrict: 3211B
Entry Number: 52

1939 Register


37 Warren Road, Willesden M.B., Middlesex, England

Fowler household
(3 people)

Sidney J Fowler 15 Nov 1903 Male Home & Export Packer Che Married 150 1
Nellie E Fowler 30 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 150 2

The record for this person is officially closed. ?