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Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 17:22

Hi
Can anyone find on the 1939 census an ivy butler born ivy fever in 1905 in Kent to George and Ellen fever . Apparently living with them was a sister ? Annie fever .
Thankyou
Shirley :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 17:35

For our reference -

is this the family in 1901 ??


George Fever
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George Fever
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ellen Fever
Birth Place: Tong, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sittingbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Sittingbourne St Michaels
Town: Sittingbourne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Milton
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors:
Piece: 812
Folio: 86
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fever 39
Ellen Fever 35
Charles Fever 19
Annie Fever 10
George Fever 9


Father George died 1905 ?

George Fever
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Fever
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Milton
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 646

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Aug 2018 17:38

mother Ellen's remarriage

BRIDGEN James Milton 2a 2015
FEVER Ellen Milton 2a 2015

Ivy is with them in 1911

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 17:40

Here they are in 1939:

Ivy Butler
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ivy Butler
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1905
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 27
Residence Place: Maldon and Coombe, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Heavy Work
Schedule Number: 143
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: CMTI
Registration district: 30-1
Inferred Spouse: Frederick Butler
Inferred Children: John C Butler
Household Members:
Name
Frederick Butler - 15/09/1905
Ivy Butler
This record is officially closed.
John C Butler - 18/03/1930
Annie Feaver - 29/01/1886 (so her age given in 1901 is a few years out.)

Address: 27 Salisbury Road

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Aug 2018 17:45

Ivy - mmn = Walker

1882 marriage
Fever George Milton 2a 1480
Walker Ellen Milton 2a 1480

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 17:45

Annie in 1911:

Annie Feaver
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Annie Feaver
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Cousin
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sittingbourne, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 7 Glenwood Rd, West Green
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: West Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 7284
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Edward Saunders 41
Ellen Saunders 48
William George Saunders 15
Albert Edward Saunders 14
Lillian Mary Saunders 11
Annie Feaver 25

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 20 Aug 2018 17:46

FEVER, ANNIE MARIA WALKER
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in MILTON Volume 02A Page 937

Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 17:59

thanks for this. the ulterior motive is to discover which annie fever is it,, and its the one we were thinking, the one born annie maria fever to George and ellen . there is another annie fever born in Faversham kent in the same year, but she was born in the December quarter. Cheers everyone.
Still not sure we have the correct annie fever though as we found one marrying a henry baker or William jefferys in 1908 , thinking that this one must be the other annie fever though, the one born in Faversham in 1886 as in 1911 annie fever is 25 and still down as single . Can you find an annie jefferys or annie baker on the 1911 census anyone ?

thanks
Shirley :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 18:17

I'm now totally confused as to which Annie you're looking for - Ivy's sister, or the other one?

This is the marriage you mention, for our reference - note spelling:

William Jeffery
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Jeffery
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Faversham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 2000
Records on Page:
Name
Henry Baker
Annie Fever
William Jeffery
Ethel Grace Lightfoot

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 18:20

William married Ethel Grace.

So here's Annie and Henry:

Annie Baker
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Annie Baker
[Annie Fever]
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Faversham, Kent
Civil Parish: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 5 Monins Road, Dover
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 3
Estimated Marriage Year: 1908
Registration district: Dover
Registration District Number: 65
Sub-registration district: Dover
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 4600
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Baker 22
Annie Baker 24
Gladys Annie Baker 2
Priscilla Fever 49

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Aug 2018 18:25

Faversham Annie in 1901;

Annie Fever
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Annie Fever
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Priscilla Fever
Birth Place: Faversham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Faversham Without
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary of Charity
Town: Faversham Without
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Faversham
Sub-registration district: Faversham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 803
Folio: 80
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Priscilla Fever 39
Thomas Fever 16
Annie Fever 14
Jane Wood 6


And her birth:

:
FEVER, ANNIE mms WOOD
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in FAVERSHAM Volume 02A Page 832

Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 18:28

so a certain annie fever married henry baker in 1908 . But I am not sure if the annie fever we see on the 1911 census is a different annie fever to the one who married henry baker in 1908. I was thinking that annie fever reverted back to her maiden name from annie baker . I just want to completely rule out any other annie fever. think we have the correct one but as no date of birth and had a son in 1913 to father unknown and no evidence of age of annie fever we think this one born 1886 child of George and ellen is the correct one. :-S

Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 18:31

we have a norman francis fever born in November 1913 to mum annie fever in Edmonton . Can anyone see a mothers maiden name , its probably fever ?
:-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Aug 2018 18:39

This is the marriage for Annie Marie FeAver in 1919. Not sure if it helps or not!
(Find My Past)

First name(s) Annie Maria
Last name Feaver
Birth year 1886
Marriage year 1919
Marriage date 26 Dec 1919
Place Teynham, St Mary
Spouse's first name(s) George
Spouse's last name Lawrence
Groom's age 29
Groom's father's first name(s) Alfred
Groom's father's last name Lawrence - Deceased Farm Labourer
Bride's age 33
Bride's father's first name(s) Walter
Bride's father's last name Worsley - Labourer
County Kent
Country England
Register year range 1911-1929
Archive reference U3/222
Page 67
Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives

A M Feaver was a widow, hence different surname to her declared father.
Grooms occupation, Plate Layer.
Witnesses N F Worsley & W Worsley



Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 18:47

oh dear. thanks but that might just put spanner in works. maybe the annie fever mother of norman fever born 1913 is the married name and this annie married a fever ? so will try and find an annie worsley marrying a fever pre 1919.
thanks for that :-S
but then our annie fever sister of ivy an daughter of George and ellen seems never to have married. so may not be correct one. :-S :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Aug 2018 18:52

"norman francis fever born in November 1913 to mum annie fever in Edmonton . Can anyone see a mothers maiden name , its probably fever ?"

From a free search on GRO. When no mother's maiden name is listed, as in this case, that normally indicates the mother was a single woman.

FEVER, NORMAN FRANCIS -
GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 1040 Occasional Copy: B

Same record from Freebmd
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Fever Norman F mmn Fever Edmonton 3a 1040

There's no note re Copy B on the freebmd image. Not sure what it means.

Is there a Brickfield connection within the Fever family? Many Sittingbourne based families moved to Edmonton when their brickfields where developed to cope with the demand with house building,

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Aug 2018 18:54

We were typing at the same time. Norman was likely to have been born to a single mother.

Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 18:59

not sure, but found a wedding in 1911 of annie worsley and Alfred feaver. so now doubly confused. wondering now who the parents of Alfred feaver were. sigh, getting totally confused. :-S :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Aug 2018 19:06

I rather think the Feaver is a red herring, but you never know.

For what its worth, the Banns for the 1911 marriage - no ages or parents names are given on these

First name(s) Alfred Henry
Last name Feaver
Banns year -
Banns date -
Place Teynham, St Mary
Marriage year 1911
Marriage date 19 Aug 1911
Spouse's first name(s) Annie Maria
Spouse's last name Woodley - probably Worsley (type what you see!)
Groom's parish St Mary
Bride's parish St Mary
County Kent
Country England
Register year range 1907-1934
Archive reference U3/222
Page 25
Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives

Both of 'this parish' & married 19 Aug 1911

Shirley

Shirley Report 20 Aug 2018 19:06

I also see that Alfred feaver died in 1918 . wonder if there are two annie feaver/fever's in this family , one who married Alfred feaver and one who was the daughter annie feaver born 1886? :-S