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George Foster Hornby 1891 census

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Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 19:03

Hi I need help tracing George Foster Hornby born 1855 York, Yorkshire
He was married to a Hannah Laing in 1890 South Shields Durham
I have all the censuses other than 1891
They had a daughter Kate born 1889 but not sure it's Georges daughter thinking the census might say something

he was married 3 times from 1881-1890
,
On all the censuses his name includes the F or Foster and they have he was born York Yorkshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2018 19:25

Have you found Kate on any census with George and Hannah please?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Sep 2018 19:28

?? This is Kates Birth....

HORNBY, KATE . LING mms Order
GRO Reference:1893 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 130

Address given as Cemetery Cottages (Durham Records online.com)


EDIT...… Not Kate..other children born to mms "Ling" Hartlepool...

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2018 19:32

On the 1911 census, Hannah states married 21 years, 8 children born, 5 living and 3 had died. Kate is not one of the five with George and Hannah.

For our ref.

1911 Census For England & Wales
26 Price St Hebburn, Hebburn, Durham, England

Hannah Hornby's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

George Foster Hornby Head Married Male 55 1856 Engine Fitter Yorks York
Hannah Hornby Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Durham Hebburn
George Foster Hornby Son Single Male 20 1891 Apprentice Plater Durham Hebburn
David Alexander Hornby Son Single Male 15 1896 Ships Rivet Heater Durham Hebburn
John Henry Hornby Son Single Male 13 1898 School Durham Hebburn
Mary Hannah Hornby Daughter Single Female 10 1901 School Durham Hebburn
Robert Edward Hornby Son Single Male 5 1906 School Durham Hebburn

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 19:50

Sorry this family is testing me

Kate is on the 1901 aged 12 so that can't be her birth

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:08

Where is Kate in 1901 as I can't find her?

EDIT - found her now on Findmypast with family mistranscribed as Homly.

Kath. x

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:17

She is with the family Hebburn Durham aged 12

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:19

Just looked at both censuses and they are in the same house for 1901 & 1911

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:26

The only Kate Hornby I can find born at the right time (1889) is this one:-

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HORNBY, KATE HANLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in GOOLE Volume 09C Page 764

Could George have been married previously?

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Sep 2018 20:33

There is this marriage which could be the parents of Kate (although I know the first names of George are different):-

First name(s) Edward George
Last name Hornby
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1878
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™

Edward George Hornby married one of these people

>>>>>Jessie Hanley,<<<<< Eliza Waltis, Eliza Walks

Then this census in 1881:-

George F Hornby's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

George F Hornby Head Married Male 25 1856 Engine Fitter York, Yorkshire, England
Jessie J Hornby Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Hartlepool, Yorkshire, England<<<<<<<<<

The odd thing is that Jessie seems to have died in 1882. I wonder if George registered Kate's birth and unwittingly gave Jessie's maiden name instead of Hannah's????

Can't find them in 1891 census though.

EDIT - forget Jessie being the mother of Kate, I think this could be Kate's birth:-



Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
LAING, CATHERINE TULIP
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 787

No mother's maiden name given so she was illegitimate.

Kath. x


Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:45

yes that is him as I said he married 3 times in 9yrs
The next is Elizabeth Smith in 1885 she died 1886
The 1890 he married Hannah Laing

Some one has Hannah with a ….….Tulip and they have that Kate is his?? that's why I wanted the 1891 census

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:47

The marriage is the wrong one it's Jessie Turnbull who George f married 1881

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 20:57

is this the kate mentioned by kathleen born goole 1889

Kate Hornby
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Hornby Kate 0 Goole 9c 502

Sylann

Sylann Report 5 Sep 2018 20:58

Found the tree that has Kate on it

Catherine Tulip Laing born 1889 Durham ??
They have her marrying a Albert Beaumont 28 Feb 1920


They have the same 1901 & 1911 ??

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 21:12

there is only one birth for a kate hornby in 1889

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Hornby Kate Goole 9c 764

and her death

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Hornby Kate 0 Goole 9c 502

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 21:48

George F Hornby
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: George F Hornby
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1922
Registration District: South Shields
County: Durham
Event Place: South Shields, Durham, England
Age (available after 1866): 66
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Volume: 10A
Page: 718
Line Number: 101

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 22:15

this could be jessie's death

Deaths Mar 1937 (>99%)
Hornby Jessie J 81 Goole 9c 1248

malyon

malyon Report 5 Sep 2018 22:24

says kate's dad is edward

Name: Jessie Hornby
Sex: Female
Husband: Edward Hornby
Child: Kate Hornby
Other information in the record of Kate Hornby
from England Births and Christenings

Name: Kate Hornby
Residence Place: Goole, York, England
Gender: Unknown
Christening Date: 05 Apr 1890
Christening Date (Original): 5 Apr 1890
Christening Place: Goole, York, England
Father's Name: Edward Hornby
Mother's Name: Jessie Hornby

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Sep 2018 10:15

If the marriage is correct, she married as Laing so unlikely to be George's daughter. It might be worth getting the marriage certificate to see if she names a father and the witnesses may prove helpful.

Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
Beaumont Albert Laing Halifax 9a 987
Laing Catherine Beaumont Halifax 9a 987

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Sep 2018 10:25

I don't think that marriage is your Catherine. Here they are in 1939 and the birth year is wrong - unless of course she lied.

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Beaumont Household (5 People)
4 All Souls Terrace , Halifax C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Albert Beaumont

Catherine Beaumont
DOB 13 Jul 1891
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 220
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Winnie Tucker (Beaumont)

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

George W Beaumont

Ref: RG101/3396B/020/27 Letter Code:
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