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John 1804 and Ann Bevan 1806

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Doreen

Doreen Report 4 Jan 2019 17:51

I'm looking for John and Ann Bevan both parents from Builth, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 18:40

Welcome to the boards Doreen.

Reading your post from here, I'm not sure whether you mean John and Ann are siblings and you want to know both of their parents OR whether you've found John and Ann as a couple on a census and want to know the parents of both of them, bearing in mind she is unlikely to have been born a Bevan?

Please help us to help you and let us know how you got to them - as much info as you can.

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 18:47

If it is a couple you're looking for, there is this couple in Builth in 1841 - as ages were rounded down on the 1841 census if over 15, then Both John and Anne could be aged 35-39 and so born 1802-1806

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwurfelin, Llanfechan, Builth, Breconshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Bevan Male 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales Ag. Lab
Anne Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales
Anne Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales
John Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Bevan Female 7 1834 Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Morgans Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales

safc

safc Report 4 Jan 2019 18:54

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Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Dderwenddw, Llangynog, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

John Bevan's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Bevan Head Married Male 51 1800 Farm Labourer Llanfechan, Brecknockshire, Wales
Anne Bevan Wife Married Female 52 1799 Wife Brecknockshire, Wales
Margaret Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales
James Bevan Son - Male 5 1846 Son Brecknockshire, Wales
Benjamin Bevan Son - Male 2 1849 Son Builth, Breconshire, Wales
David Thomas Visitor - Male 2 1849 - Llangynog, Brecknockshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 18:58

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BEVAN, BENJAMIN LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 32

BEVAN, JANE LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 272

If 1841 and 1851 same family - then Mary a little older than 1851 suggests? Unless the earlier child died and another named for her

BEVAN, MARY LEWIS Order
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 255

safc

safc Report 4 Jan 2019 19:01


John Beavan
Wales, Brecknockshire, Parish Registers
Name John Beavan
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 11 Jun 1831
Event Place Llanafan Fechan, Brecknockshire, Wales
Spouse's Name Anne Lewis

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 19:08

From the 1851 as posted by safc - places of birth are
John - Llanfechan ********
Anne - Llanafanfawr
Margaret , Mary and Anne - Llanfechan
James - ?Llangasiten
Benjamin - Builth

******* originally known as Llanafan-fechan about 4 miles West of Builth

Doreen

Doreen Report 4 Jan 2019 19:37

Or it must be John Bevan 1804 and Mary? 1802 from Builth

Their children

Meredith Bevan 1828
Mary Bevan 1830
David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828
Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan)
John and Jane (twins?) 1841

I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth.

I'm looking for John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1802 their parents? Hope anyone can help?


greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 19:49

A couple of possibles for Anne -

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Anne
Last name Lewis
Birth year 1800
Birth date ? ? 1800
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 13 Sep 1800
Place Llanafan Fawr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Rees
Mother's first name(s) Mary Lewis
Page 38

From image - Anne the Illegitimate daughter of Rees Lewis of ?Fronwen and Mary Lewis - de ?Tynowydd

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Or this one with parents Jane and Benjamin (names of two of John and Anne Bevan's children)

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Anne
Last name Lewis
Birth year 1802
Birth date ? ? 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism date 05 Dec 1802
Place Llanafan Fawr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Benjamin
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Page 40

image - Anne the daughter of Benjamin Lewis by Jane his wife - can't read the last 3 words - ? de Cefu Uippa ??????

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 19:54

Marriage posted by safc - John BEAVAN Bachelor and Anne Lewis Spinster married by Banns with consent of Parents.

John has signed Bevan, Anne has made her mark.

witnesses - David Evans and Rees Price

Doreen

Doreen Report 4 Jan 2019 20:05

Sorry I was told that it was Mary 1806 not Anne, sorry I was mistake.

John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1806 from Builth. Who were their parents in 17th century?

Their children

Meredith Bevan 1828
Mary Bevan 1830
David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828
Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan)
John and Jane (twins?) 1841

I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth. Is this correct?

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 20:05

So IS THIS the family - not a lot of difference between John 1804 and Anne 1806 !! More information initially would have saved a lot of time and effort by helpers !


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Mary Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales w/o Shoemaker
Meredith Bevan Male 13 1828 Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales
David Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales
Evan Bevan Male 8 1833 Breconshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales
David Davies Male 22 1819 Breconshire, Wales

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Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Meredith
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1827
Birth date ? ? 1827
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 25 Nov 1827
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) David
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Page 19

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??????

Breconshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) David
Last name Bevan
Birth year -
Event year 1825
Banns year -
Marriage year 1825
Marriage date 31 May 1825
Marriage place Gwenddwr
Residence Gwenddwr
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Davies
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's residence Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales

There is a Davies in the 1841 household

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 20:23

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Erwood, Crickadarn, Builth, Radnorshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Bevan Head Married Male 47 1804 Shoemaker Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Wife Married Female 46 1805 - Breconshire, Wales
Merdith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 - Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Breconshire, Wales
David Bevan Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Work Man Breconshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Breconshire, Wales
Elenor Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - Breconshire, Wales

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BEVAN, ANN DAVIES Order
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 277

BUT ??

BEVAN, ELEANOR EVANS Order
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 299

Doreen

Doreen Report 4 Jan 2019 20:25

Thanks Greyghost

This one is correct. No sign of John Bevan 1802 on this census? And also Any sign of John 1802 or Mary 1806's parents?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Mary Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Male 13 1828 Breconshire, Wales
Mary Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales
David Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales
Evan Bevan Male 8 1833 Breconshire, Wales
Jane Bevan Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales
David Davies Male 22 1819 Breconshire, Wales

Can you confirm if Meredith Bevan 1848 and wife mary 1850 were the Unicorn Inn keepers in Gwenddwr, Builth?

Thanks for your helpings

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 20:49

1841 already posted, along with 1851 for same family.

If you can decide who it is you are looking for, then I'll try to help further - what relationship is John Bevan to whom!

Sorry can't look for everything all at once !!

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) Meredith
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1827
Birth date ? ? 1827
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 25 Nov 1827
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) David
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Page 19

also showing -with parents David (Shoemaker) and Mary - at Gwenddwr
Mary Beavan -26.4.1829
Evan Bevan - 28.10.1832
Elizabeth - 3.2.1839 - shows Father as first name Davis on transcript but same person
Jane - 7.10.1841

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On same page as Elizabeth in OPR there is this baptism on 10.2.1839
Thomas son of Meredith (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth Bevan of Gwenddwr, so not the ones you're looking for but maybe a family member

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 20:52

The Meredith Bevan family who baptised Thomas 1839

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Meredith Bevan Male 50 1791 Breconshire, Wales Innkeeper
Elizabeth Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales
Thomas Bevan Male 3 1838 Breconshire, Wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 21:00

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
Bevan Meredith Builth 11b 137
Thomas Anne Builth 11b 137


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales

Meredith recorded as Innkeeper born Gwenddwr

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BEVAN, ELIZABETH ANN THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95

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Living next door to (related or coincidence?)

Ann Bevan aged 68 Head of house an AG. Lab's widow b LLanavon
Jane Bevan 25 Daughter b Llanvechan
John Bevan 8 grandson b Altmawr?
James Bevan 2 grandson b Gwenddwr

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 21:14

There is this baptism of a David Bevan - a bit older than the 1851 census suggests

Breconshire Baptisms

First name(s) David
Last name Bevan
Birth year 1800
Birth date ? ? 1800
Baptism year 1800
Baptism date 25 Dec 1800
Place Gwenddwr
County Breconshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Meredith
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 2

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 22:30

PM from Doreen -

I found this Bevan Family Tree on website https://www.geni.com/family-tree/canvas/6000000011514581533 so I thought I can ask this message centre to see if they can help.

Our was Margaret Jane Bevan, believe she married to a man's surname Davies. Her parents Meredith 1848 and Anne 1850.

I cant go further since John 1802 and Mary Bevan 1804

Thank you so much for your big helps

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I think that tree may well be wrong - does anyone else think I might be on the right track? (An Ancestry tree has the same as me - looks to be well researched, but I didn't look until after I'd researched myself)

SO -

Working backwards - Margaret Jane Bevan with parents (posted earlier)

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales
Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales
Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BEVAN, MARGARET JANE THOMAS Order
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95 Order

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Breconshire Marriages And Banns

First name(s) Meredith <<<<
Last name Bevan
Age Full
Birth year -
Event year 1867
Banns year -
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 02 Feb 1867
Marriage place Gwenddwr
Father's first name(s) Meredith <<<<<<
Father's last name Bevan
Spouse's first name(s) Anne
Spouse's last name Thomas
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's father's last name Thomas
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas

the Ancestry tree has a copy of the actual marriage certificate.

Meredith is shown as a Carpenter - matches 1881 census, not posted here, when he's shown as an Innkeeper and Carpenter.
witnesses John Jones and Jane Thomas

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Jan 2019 22:37


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Village of Gwenddwr, Gwenddwr South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bevan Head Widower Male 68 1793 Retired Inn Keeper Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Meredith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Scholar Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales


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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meredith Bewan Head Married Male 58 1793 Victualler Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bewan Wife Married Female 49 1802 Wife Alltmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales
Thomas Bewan Son - Male 13 1838 Scholar Brecknockshire, Wales
Meredith Bewan Son - Male 5 1846 - Brecknockshire, Wales