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Plymouth area help please?

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Kerri

Kerri Report 13 May 2019 10:54

Can someone with Findmypast lookup the marriage of Thomas Bickley b c 1807 Plymouth,Devon to Elizabeth about 1830ish. Or the baptism of Thomas? Im curious as I DNA match with a couple of people with this lineage. Thought there maybe a connection to my FUGE or LUXMOORE family.
Thanks

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 May 2019 11:01

There's this one?

Record set Devon Marriages
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Bickley
Marriage year 1830
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Tross
Denomination Anglican
County Devon
Place Diptford
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Marriage date 19 Jan 1830
Parish Diptford

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 May 2019 11:01

??
Devon Marriages

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Bickley
Marriage year 1827
Marriage date 21 Aug 1827
Parish East Stonehouse
Place East Stonehouse
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Potter
Denomination Anglican
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 May 2019 11:02

Or


First name(s) Thomas
Last name Bickley
Marriage year 1827
Marriage date 21 Aug 1827
Parish East Stonehouse
Place East Stonehouse
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Potter
Denomination Anglican
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 May 2019 11:02

baptism?


Report a transcription error.
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Bickley
Birth year 1807
Birth date 27 Feb 1807
Baptism year 1811
Baptism date 18 Jun 1811
Denomination Anglican
Place Plympton St Mary
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Hannah
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 414/4
Archive event Composite registers
Page 11
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 May 2019 11:04

Not seeing a baptism in Devonshire from FMP.

Have you picked the family up on a census with a place of birth for Thomas?

safc

safc Report 13 May 2019 11:07

Record Transcription:
Devon Baptisms

First name(s) Thos
Last name Bickley
Baptism year 1803
Baptism date 17 Apr 1803
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, St Andrew
Father's first name(s) Mattw
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 358/6
Archive event Composite registers
Page 37
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kerri

Kerri Report 13 May 2019 11:11

1861 census
https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=16027928&ssrc=pt&tid=46295775&pid=6885994325&usePUB=true

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 May 2019 11:11

??this family

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Robins Cottages, 1, William Lane, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Bickley Head Married Male 44 1807 Greenwich Pensioner Plymouth, Devon, England
Elizabeth Bickley Wife - Female 47 1804 - Falmouth, Cornwall, England
Ellen Bickley Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 - Bath, Somerset, England
Thomas Bickley Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Mary Ann Bickley Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BICKLEY, MARY ANN POTTER
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 385

BICKLEY, THOMAS POTTER
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 431

Kerri

Kerri Report 13 May 2019 11:15

Yes thats the one. So we now know he married Elizabeth Potter in 1827

safc

safc Report 13 May 2019 11:15

1841 Census
8 Records found


Piece: HO107/271 Place: Plymouth Borough -Devon Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr Ecclesiastical Parish: Charles The Martyr
Folio: 11 Page: 16
Address: Catdown

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BICKLEY Thomas M 35 Butcher Devon
BICKLEY Elizth F 35 Devon
BICKLEY George M 10m Outside Census County (1841)
BICKLEY Anna F 3 Devon
LORD Margarett F 15 Females Ervant Devon
HORN Charles M 35 Waterman Devon
HORN Sophia F 25 Devon
HORN John M 2 Devon

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 May 2019 11:16

Your 1861 census URL takes me to an Ancestry page asking me if I'd like to join Ancestry. Is it the same family as I posted 1851?

Kerri

Kerri Report 13 May 2019 11:18

1851 &1861 same

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 May 2019 11:26

1861 from FMP - obviously BRickley isn't a recognised variant !!

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Robins Cottages, 2, William Lane, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Brickley Head Married Male 54 1807 Greenwich Pensioner Labourer Mason Plymouth, Devon, England
Elizabeth Brickley Wife Married Female 57 1804 Laundress... Falmouth, Cornwall, England
Helen Brickley Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1832 - Bath, Somerset, England
Thomas Brickley Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Cabinet Maker And Polisher Apprentice Plymouth, Devon, England
Mary Ann Brickley Daughter - Female 15 1846 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England

Flip

Flip Report 13 May 2019 11:51

1881 census shows Elizabeth is a widow:
Thomas Bickley
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Bickley
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 4 Claremont Cotts
Marital status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: French Polisher
Registration district: Plymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2197
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bickley 42
Elizabeth Bickley 42
Thomas A. Bickley 15
Ellen J. Bickley 13
William J.M. Bickley 11
Mary A. Bickley 8
Edith E. Bickley 6
Frederick P. Bickley 4
Elizabeth Bickley 76
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Added, she was still with son Thomas on 1891 census.

safc

safc Report 13 May 2019 12:03

Record Transcription:
Devon Baptisms


Location: Devon, England


First name(s) Thomas
Last name Bickley
Birth year 1839
Birth date 08 Mar 1839
Baptism year 1847
Baptism date 08 Dec 1847
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, St Andrew
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 358/14/b
Archive event Baptism registers
Page 332
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great

thomas is a mariner

Flip

Flip Report 13 May 2019 12:05

Ellen's christening, on the image it gives either Marine or Marrner as Thomas's occupation at the time - can't quite make out which.

Ellen Bickley
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1832
Baptism Place: Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Bath, St Michael
Search Photos: Search for 'Bath, St Michael' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Thomas Bickley
Mother: Elisabeth Bickley

Looks like Abby has confirmed mariner!

safc

safc Report 13 May 2019 12:09

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Somerset
Place Bath
Church name St Michael
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 31 Aug 1832
Person forename Ellen
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Elisabeth
Father surname BICKLEY
Person abode 14 Lady Mead
Father occupation A Marine
Transcribed by David Hartley
Credit Carol Mitchell Fiona Tregoiing Sarah Hartland
File line number 8038

Flip

Flip Report 13 May 2019 12:26

National archives may also confirm marine - there is this & another couple of records which when you look at the info confirms it as a list of marines.

ADM 158/36/41/29
Description:
Name: Thomas Bickley.

Age: 14 years.

Place of birth: St Andrews, Plymouth, Devon.

Date: [1787-1838]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description

Flip

Flip Report 13 May 2019 12:29

Kerri

You are trying to tie in to ancestry DNA matches, but they had a number of children & you'd need to follow them all and their descendants to see where the connection lies.

Have you tried uploading your ancestry DNA to other sites (eg ftdna or my heritage) both of these accept uploads, and sometimes come up with more matches than ancestry.