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Hi I've got this outgoing passenger list 19 June 1920 to Canada for a Ellen McRobert travelling with I think two children
Has any one got the means to find out who she was travelling with only she had 5 children and I think they all emigrated also her husband Charles I know he went over 1913 and 1920 on his own? and he came back 1930 to Scotland for a visit to 214 Thistle St Glasgow

Thank you

There’s no record on ancestry or FMP

Where did you find it

What was the name of Ship, on the Record?...

Chris :)

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/search.aspx

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Not seeing anything - is this Charles in 1913 arriving Glasgow? He's a Carter

Name: Charles McRobert
Arrival Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1868
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 27 Oct 1913
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Pretorian
Shipping Line: Allan Line
Official Number: 113969

Actually it was on Ancestry Canada Ocean Arrivals Form 30A 1919=1924 ship sicilion port of arrival Quebec

there's this in 1920 - with Mrs Ellen 50, William 26, Janet 19, Charles 19

He's a transport worker - going to ?Namaine, BC
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Name: Charles McRobert
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1868
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1920
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Sicilian
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Name: Charles McRobert
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1868
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1920
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Sicilian
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With mrs Ellen aged 50
Willam aged 26
Janet aged 19
Charles aged 17

yes that is the 1913 record I'm going off
The Charles in 1821 is the son it looks as though they travelled alone
Their children were James 1892, William 1894, Ellen 1898 Janet 1900 and Charles

The 1920 Seems to match names and ages

Mrs Ellen McRobert

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
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Name: Mrs Ellen McRobert
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 50
Birth Year: abt 1870
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1920
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Sicilian

She's with:
Charles, 52, transport worker
William, 24, fruiterer
Janet, 19, machinist
Charles, 17. (something?) mechanic

All heading to Nanaimo, BC

? Ellen 1870 — 1920 Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Quebec, Canada

(as above FMP)

Chris :)

Sorry that 1920 out going is the one I got on ancestry BUT with not having worldwide I couldn't access it so I thought they were travelling separately

Thank you That's cleared that up

Charles McRobert

in the 1921 Census of Canada
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Name: Charles McRobert
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Age: 51
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birth Place: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Nelly Adolphus McRobert
Father Birth Place: Scotland
Mother Birth Place: Scotland
Year of Immigration: 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory: British Columbia
District: Nanaimo
District Number: 19
Sub-District: New Castle
Sub-District Number: 35
City, Town or Village: Nanaimo BC
Street or Township: 805 Wentworth
Municipality: Nanaimo
Occupation: Labourer
Income: 300
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles McRobert 51
Nelly Adolphus McRobert 49
Jeanette McRobert 21
Charles McRobert 18

That census matches other than Nelly Adolphus her name was Ellen Muir McRobert nee McAlpine, they had a daughter Ellen (Nellie) McRobert born 1898?

Nelly would be a "pet" name for Ellen, same as with the daughter.

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Name: Charles Mcrobert
Gender: Male
Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1868
His return after the 1930 visit to Glasgow. shown as a "Teamster"

Departure Date: 3 Apr 1931
Port of Departure: Greenock, Scotland
Destination Port: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Ship Name: Montrose
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Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 145919
Master: J F Dott
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Looking again at the original of that 1921 census. Nellie's middle name could very well be McAlpine. The handwriting is very poor.

The Ocean Arrivals document you refer to -

View Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Name: Charles McRobert
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Birth Place: Dumfriesshire Scotland
Age: 52
Date of Arrival: 19 1920
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Ship Name: Sicilian

do you have the details from the original image? Amongst other things it says his nearest relative in country from where he came is
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James McRobert Son of 171 Waddell Street, Glasgow

Yes he did have a son James not sure when he emigrated but he died in Canada 1950
I only have what has been put on here and that wasn't put on

Charles Mcrobert
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Charles Mcrobert
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen M Mcrobert
Gender: Male
Where born: trieggles, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 143 Rose St
Occupation: Railway Canvasser
ED: 14
Household schedule number: 148
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_308
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mcrobert 32
Helen M Mcrobert 30
James Mcrobert 8
William Mcrobert 6
Helen Mcrobert 3
Annie Hendreson 23
David Bell 22

A tree on Ancestry says James was born 13 Oct 1892, Glasgow.

However, it says he died in Glasgow, and presumably didn't go to Canada.


Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1857-1962
Name
James McRobert
Residence Year
1931
Address
214 Thistle Street South
Residence Place
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division
Glasgow
Household Members
NameJames McRobert

With Mrs Margaret McRobert.

He's also there in 1950, with Mrs Margret McL, and Walter McRobert.

1919, at 171 Waddell Street, Gorbals.
1925 & 1926, 171 Waddell Street, with Mrs Margaret McRobert.
1929 and later, at 214 Thistle Street South, with Margaret.


However -
It says he died 27 Oct 1950, but doesn't offer proof.
I think this is the death they mean - and the age doesn't fit, not to mention spelling:

MCROBERTS
JAMES
82
1950
644/10 286
Milton



So, if James went to Canada, it must have been after 1930.
EDIT:
No, he didn't emigrate - see later posts.