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I am doing some research on behalf of a friend. I am trying to obtain information on her maternal grandmother but we have very limited information. Her name was Margaret Neill possibly O'Neill. Believe she may have been born in Ireland around 1900 but unsure of date. Margaret married a George Henry Brennen and lived her married life on the Isle of Wight. They had possibly 4 children the eldest being a Doris Anne DOB 1932 and a Peter the other 2 unsure of. We also believe that Margaret died young maybe around 1945.
I know this is a big ask but any information anyone may have would be much appreciated.
Keep safe and well all tree builders

Alana

1939 for dob

36 Whitepit Lane, Newport, Newport M.B., Isle of Wight, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Margaret Brennen 08 Jan 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 148 1
Doris (Anne) Glen (Brennen) 14 Jul 1932 Female At School Single 148 2

Hugh Clements 19 ? 1901 Male ? Labourer Single 148 4
Ref: RG101/2648H/012/31 Letter Code: EPC

Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
Brennen Doris A Neill Farnham 2a 304 (not the I O W)

You can easily look for info on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


Here's the probable death

Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%)
Brennen Margaret 46 I.Wight 6b 585

Although it doesn't match the DoB she gave in 1939, which may be because she was older than George, and didn't want to admit it


And George's

Deaths Dec 1983 (>99%)
BRENNEN GEORGE HENRY 19SE1905 I O W 20 1923

From the GRO site

BRENNEN, GEORGE HENRY (MMN) FRY
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 563

No marriage in England/Wales for George H Brennen

You may need to look in Ireland

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32&Itemid=117

Three Margaret Neill's aged 9 on Irish Census 1911



Neill Margaret Leighlinsbridge Town, part of Leighlinbridge Carlow 9 F

Neill Margaret Ballydonnell Ballydonnell Kilkenny 9 F

Neill Margaret Crutt Clogh Kilkenny 9 F

do you have the marriage cert showing fathers details

I can't see ANY births of alleged children apart from Doris's which I posted above

maybes bearing in mind jan dob

Name: Margaret Neill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Registration district: Skibbereen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 468
FHL Film Number: 101069

Name: Margaret Neill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Registration district: Castletown
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 41
FHL Film Number: 101069

I know it's a year compared to the 1939 register but I wondered about this birth.

MARGARET NEILL
Date of Birth 08 January 1901
Group Registration ID 243409
SR District/Reg Area Downpatrick
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname MC COMB, Jane

Father James, a labourer

JAMES NEILL
Party 2 Name JANE MCCOMB
Date of Event 12 December 1895
Group Registration ID 2249915
SR District/Reg Area Downpatrick

Name: James Neill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar, 1896
Registration district: Downpatrick, Ireland
Volume: 1
Page Number: 633
FHL Film Number: 101258
Records on Page:
Name
Lena Shaw
Robert Russell
Jane A Rodgers
Jane M'Comb -------
James Neill
David M'Kee
Mary A Gibson
William Morrow

Ireland Census 1901

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Age Birth year Birth place
Cunningham McComb Head of Family Married 65 1836 Down
Agnes McComb Wife Married 68 1833 Down
Thomas McComb Son Single 28 1873 Down
Jane Neill Daughter Married 26 1875 Down
Ellen McComb Daughter Single 21 1880 Down
Maggie Neill Grand Daughter Single - - Down ------------------
Agnes Neill Grand Daughter Single 2 1899 Down
Robert James Neill Grand Son Single 4 1897 Down

Census Years1901DownCrossgarCluntaghResidents of a house

Residents of a house 28 in Cluntagh (Crossgar, Down)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Neill Jane 26 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Down Seamstress Read and write - Married -
McComb Ellen 21 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Down Seamstress Read and write - Not Married -
Neill Maggie Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Neill Agnes 2 Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Neill Robert James 4 Male Grand Son Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
McComb Cunningham 65 Male Head of Family Presbyterian County Down Farm Labourer Can read and write - Married -
McComb Thomas 28 Male Son Presbyterian County Down Railway Porter Read and write - Not Married -
McComb Agnes 68 Female Wife Presbyterian County Down House Keeper Read and write - Married -

Here's the above Margaret in 1901 with mother, siblings and grandparents. No father with the family though.

Census Years1901DownCrossgarCluntaghResidents of a house
Residents of a house 28 in Cluntagh (Crossgar, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Neill Jane 26 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Down Seamstress Read and write - Married -
McComb Ellen 21 Female Daughter Presbyterian County Down Seamstress Read and write - Not Married -
Neill Maggie Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Neill Agnes 2 Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Neill Robert James 4 Male Grand Son Presbyterian County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
McComb Cunningham 65 Male Head of Family Presbyterian County Down Farm Labourer Can read and write - Married -
McComb Thomas 28 Male Son Presbyterian County Down Railway Porter Read and write - Not Married -
McComb Agnes 68 Female Wife Presbyterian County Down House Keeper Read and write - Married -

Sorry, just notice Maddie had edited her post to add that census.

James Neill remarried in 1903 (as a widower) to Ellen Shields. Margaret and Agnes are with them on the 1911 census. Son Robert James is with his paternal grand parents.

Census Years1911DownCrossgarKillyleagh StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 49 in Killyleagh Street (Crossgar, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Neill James 37 Male Head of Family Presbytarian
Neill Ellen 46 Female Wife Presbytarian
Neill Agnes 12 Female Daughter Presbytarian
Neill Margret 10 Female Daughter Presbytarian
Neill Hugh 5 Male Son Presbytarian

Census Years1911DownKillinchyBallymorranResidents of a house
Residents of a house 1 in Ballymorran (Killinchy, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Neill Thomas 66 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Farmer Read and write - Married - - - -
Neill Margaret 65 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Down - Read only - Married - 42 8 7
Neill Robert James 13 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Neill Jennie 15 Female Grand Daughter Presbyterian Co Down - Read and write - Single - - - -

That Margaret married in 1921

Party 1 Name James GABBEY
Party 2 Name Margaret NEILL
Date of Event 27 December 1921
Group Registration ID 1285197
SR District/Reg Area Downpatrick

Unless a marriage to Brennen can be found, no info can be proved

Perhaps either Margaret or George wasn't free to marry.

NO marriage in England/Wales for George H Brennen, as previously stated

Nor is there one on the Irish BMD site