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Re George -

perhaps he was working away from home, if he wasn't in the forces.

For instance, there's this George F, married, and a closed record in the same household:

George F Nicholson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George F Nicholson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 05/07/1896 (5 Jul 1896)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3
Residence Place: Beeston and Stapleford Nottinghamshire England
Occupation: Excavator Driver Heavy Worker
Line Number: 3
Schedule Number: 232
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: RNBF
Borough: Beeston and Stapleford
Registration district: 429-3
Household Members Age
Marie W Sayer 31 - single
George F Nicholson 43 - married
[and one closed record ]


But that George is 20 years older than Dorothy - which doesn't necessarily rule him out, unless you know his YOB.

As Dorothy, nee Farrer, was working as a live-in servant, surely it's entirely feasible that her child was with grandparents..................

That would be the Nicholson grandparents, as Dorothy's parents had both died before 1939.

Her father John died in 1919, West Derby.
Her mother Catherine Emily died in 1924, West Derby, having remarried in 1922 to John Bray.

Yvonne, do you know George's parents' names?

I thought the Griffith woman was the mother of the Farrer girls - if she wasn’t there’s absolutely no reason to imagine the closed record is for a Farrer relation.

Sorry, I don’t know anything about Nicholson, I suppose I could get their marriage certificate which would give his father’s name. If Dorothy is with grandparents shouldn’t she show up somewhere?
Erika, the Griffith girl was not the mother, she was the sister of Dorothy’s mother and took on the care of the children after their parents died.

You say, "If Dorothy is with grandparents shouldn’t she show up somewhere?"

Not if her record is still closed.

We would have to know the Nicholson parents' names in order to look them up and see if there's a closed r ecord with them..
At present we can't even assume they lived in the West Derby area.

If the 1957 death is indeed Dorothy's, then possilby this could be George's. - though we don't know his age:

George F Nicholson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: George F Nicholson
Death Age: 46
Birth Date: abt 1917
Registration Date: Jul 1963
[Aug 1963]
[Sep 1963]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 479

I think I’d better get that marriage certificate and see what we can find about George. It might even give his age which would be a big help.

Running with that death , in the absence of any other possibility at the moment.
(You do need his marriage cert.):

???
NICHOLSON, GEORGE FREDERICK mms MEREDITH
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 1037

Parents' marriage ??

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Meredith Sarah Jane W. Derby 8b 676
Nicholson John George W. Derby 8b 676

??
John Nicholson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Nicholson
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ashh, Knotty
Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Sunbeam Rd Old Swan
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Grocers Manager
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: West Derby Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 22640
Household Members:
Name Age
John Nicholson 30
Sarah Nicholson 31
Lilian Nicholson 6


Married 7 years.

I don't see Lilian's birth. Maybe that's just what she was known as in the family??

??
NICHOLSON, ELIZABETH DORIS mms MEREDITH
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 657

This is George Frederick 1917 in 1939 :

If the three closed records are his wife and children, than he's not your George - but we don't know who they are, so can't rule it out:

Fred G Nicholson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Fred G Nicholson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 06/02/1917 (6 Feb 1917)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 12
Residence Place: Liverpool Lancashire England
Occupation: Working Jeweler
Line Number: 19
Schedule Number: 44
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: NISF
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 455/7
Household Members Age
Sarah J Nicholson 60 - widow, 16/9/1879
Eleanor M Nicholson 25 - single, 22/9/1914
Fred G Nicholson 22

[and three closed records ]


Eleanor's DOB is a year out on the Register, as is often the case:

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
NICHOLSON Eleanor M Meredith W. Derby 8b 1160


Your George's marriage cert will give his occupation , which could be helpful.

Apart from your George's marriage, the only other one of a George F Nicholson in Lancashire, 1930-1939 is this one:

Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%)
Harrison Maud Nicholson Liverpool N 8b 754
Nicholson George F Harrison Liverpool N. 8b 754

But that couple are with Maud's mother Catherine in 1939, and that George was born in 1911 - so George F 1917 could conceivably be yours, and one of the closed records might be Dorothy 1937 :

George F Nicholson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George F Nicholson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 01/08/1911 (1 Aug 1911)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 30
Residence Place: West Lancashire Lancashire England
Occupation: Laundry Sales Manager
Line Number: 39
Schedule Number: 29
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NZVL
Borough: West Lancashire
Registration district: 457/4
Inferred Spouse:
Maud Nicholson
Household Members Age
Catheine Harrison 67
George F Nicholson 28
Maud Nicholson 27

Thanks. It all seems so iffy, so I’m going to send for that marriage certificate and see if that helps.

Going back to the original question it’s still not beyond the realms of possibility that the closed record is for Dorothy’s child, as he/she hasn’t been positively identified elsewhere on the register (as far as I can deduce from other posts on here)

Many people took in lodgers at that time so that's a possibility.

Annie