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I was given a sign which read “ I shook my Family Tree and a load of nuts fell out”

Thanks for the reassurance NAMELESSONE! I have a coaster on my desk with the motto "My brain has too many tabs open" - how true ................... :-D

Don’t get too hung up on both parties having the same surname. Coincidences do happen.

Oops, please forget my above ramblings. Got my Bayleys and Fitzgeralds in a muddle.

Apologies.
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After a long break I know, but here is the link to the Bayley family history that I found - my ancestors:

https://archive.org/details/familyofbayleyof00axon/page/50/mode/2up

On page 49 is JAMES WALKER BAYLEY my Great Great Great Grandfather. On page 50 is the name of his second wife MARY ANN PHELAN my Great Great Great Grandmother. Their fourth child HENRY ELLIOTT DASHWOOD BAYLEY is, of course, my Great Great Grandfather.

This kind of throw a curve ball that her maiden name was in fact Fitzgerald, the same as her married name!! Everything else in this wonderful book is 100% accurate so I'm not sure which maiden name to go for.

Enjoy the read - it's fascinating.

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N/R means "Not recorded".

Thank you ArgyllGran! There seem to be so many websites and I'm very, very new to Irish records/research.

That conclusively shows that Mary Anne's maiden/previous name was indeed Fitzgerald. I've been after this trying to do it on my own for a long time.

What does the N/R after both their names mean, please?

Liam gave the wife’s name on your previous thread on 19 November 2011.

He posted this

19 Nov 2011 01:22

Marriage,
William Barry Fitzgerald + Mary Anne Fitzgerald,
14th Jan 1817. COI St Paul Dublin.

Baptism- Mary Anne Fitzgerald, 16th Apr 1826, COI. St Mary
Father- Wm Barry Fitzgerald
Mother- Mary Anne Fitzgerald.
Address- Stafford Street, Dublin

Burial- Cecilia Fitzgerald Dec 1825 aged 10 months
Address- Stafford Street

Mary Anne's maiden name (or at least her surname before she married William) WAS Fitzgerald.

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-1-5-104

(See the 5th record from the bottom of that page.)


Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PAUL
Marriage of WM BARRY FITZGERALD of N/R and MARY ANNE FITZGERALD of N/R on 14 January 1817
Husband Wife
Name WM BARRY FITZGERALD MARY ANNE FITZGERALD
Address N/R N/R
Occupation N/R N/R
Father N/R N/R
Mother N/R N/R

As shown above, there are no details of their parents' names.


The baptism record of the daughter Mary Anne in 1826, posted earlier, also shows Mary Anne senior's maiden name as Fitzgerald.

the records come from ancestry, a fee paying site


Ancestry® | Genealogy, Family Trees & Family History Records
www.ancestry.co.uk

That is very, very clever Maddie! How on earth do you know these things? I'm so impressed and thank you.

Yes, we did know that he was an Attorney/Solicitor so this is good confirmation.

Could you please let me have the link so that I can try to get the hang of searching in this record?

I'm still very much wanting to get to the bottom of Mary Anne's maiden name. Is there a way of searching Irish records by her first two names and working back?

not sure if same person
Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY

Burial of WILLIAM BARRY FITZGERALD of 8 BLESSINGTON ST on 13 December 1845 aged 55

in the Dublin, Ireland, Probate Record and Marriage License Index, 1270-1858

Name: William Barry Fitzgerald
Spouse: Mary Ann Fitzgerald
Document Year: 1817
Record Type: Marriage Licence

William Barry
Last name Fitzgerald
Year 1835
Section Dublin Directory
Town 31 Rutland Square West
County Dublin
Record set Pettigrew And Oulton, The Dublin Almanac And General Register Of Ireland, 1835
Category Directories & social history
Subcategory Directories & Almanacs
Collections from Ireland

attorney and solicitor

The old thread for our reference:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1285705

Someone on that thread mentioned baptism of an earlier child than FAF:

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY
Baptism of MARY ANNE FITZGERALD of STAFFORD ST on 16 April 1826
Name MARY ANNE FITZGERALD
Date of Birth 4 April 1826
Address STAFFORD ST
Father WM BARRY FITZGERALD
Mother MARY ANNE FITZGERALD


There are other possibilities too, but only giving parents' names William and Mary - not enough proof.

And it seems to be the only entry on the page where there isn't a '&' between the name of the groom and bride.

Thank you again.

I can't get my head around the names; as you say, it's all very odd.

His name on his baptism and death records is definitely WILLIAM BARRY FITZGERALD. It seems so odd to me that his wife has the same surname as his middle name?!

Do you think this could possibly be a muddled entry at the time?

And also 1821 for the marriage looks like a big gap until FAF is born in 1834, considering lack of birth control .............! I think that FAF is their eldest child.

All help very gratefully received.
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Kathleen Bell posted a marriage transcript at 2210

From the image - Married William Fitzd (the d is slightly above the line of writing) Mary anne Barry in presence of David Lane Tom McCarthy MD

Not a lot of full stops !!


https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632998#page/4/mode/1up

Page is headed January 1821 - there are 5 entries under the Jan. written in the side column and the next one is then !st Feb, and the next the one you want 7 Feb. an odd one for March before a heading of April

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

I'm still on the track to find the marriage for WBF and Mary Anne.

I'm stuck!

Name FRANCES ADELAIDE FITZGERALD
Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R
Address N/R
Father WM BARRY FITZGERALD
Mother MARY ANNE
Further details in the record
Sponsor 1 JOHN FAGAN
Sponsor 2 TEMPERANCE FITZGERALD
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R 193 N/R DU-RC-BA-628751 st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_1826-1858_ba_0103
View the church register page containing this record.

St Mary's pro Cathedral, Dublin

From image - 18 May 1834
Frances Adelaide of Wm Barry and Mary Anne Fitzgerald.
SS John Fagan and Temperance Fitzgerald


SS - means Sponsors or Godparents