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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2022 18:29

Confirming the 1913 birth, with middle name shown on the GRO site (only FreeBMD birth record has been posted so far):

DRYDEN, LILY RICHARDSON mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in MORPETH Volume 10B Page 907


And the Smith/Elliston marriage, just for reference:

Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%)
Elliston Clifford G Smith Bury St.E. 4a 3723
Smith Lily Elliston Bury St.E. 4a 3723

(Oops! Marriage already posted last year by Greyghost.)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2022 18:44

Greyghost posted the FMP transcription of 1939 for Lily , where she's listed as
Lily (R) Elligton (Smith) 26 Nov 1912.

However, looking at the image, the middle initial R has been scored out.

There's also no middle initial on the marriage record.


In August 2021, an Ancestry member added the name Lily Richardson Dryden to the Ancestry transcription .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2022 18:44

That's the cert the poster has purchased, full details of which I have asked her to give us

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2022 19:09

Yes, I posted it for the sake of location, at least , pending Glenise's reply.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Mar 2022 19:22

It seems rather coincidental that Clifford Elliston’s death was in such close proximity to that of Lily.

As I suggested earlier, the woman’s death cert would be worth getting.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Apr 2022 13:03

Have tried to get Glenise to return to this thread. PM opened.....................

Glenise

Glenise Report 15 Apr 2022 11:00

Certificates I have

Birth 1913 registered 24th February Ashlngton County Northumberland
258/ 26th November 1912 Lily Richardson Girl father James Dryden mother Maggie Dryden formally Scott occupation of father general Cartman
signature and residence of informant Maggie Dryden mother front street Newbiggin -by-the-sea

Birth
489/ 1931 Coventry West County of Coventry CB
20th July 1931 Gulson Road Municipal Hospital
Alfred James Boy name of father BLANK
name surname and maiden name of Mother
Lily Richardson Dryden a domestic servant of 50 Holyhead road Coventry
father occupation BLANK
signature description residence of informant
Lily R Dryden Mother 50 Holyhead Road Coventry 14th August 1931
in side column
'Adopted '

Marriage
246/ The Registry Office Gloucester in County Borough of Gloucester
15 April 1933
Edgar Clifton Ashley Smith age 25yrs Bachelor
Occupation Plasterer address 1 Balfour Road Gloucester
fathers name
Alfred Ashley Smith
Occupation Carpenter
Lily Richardson Dryden age 20yrs Spinster
Occupation Domestic servant address 1 Balfour Road Gloucester
Father James Dryden Deceased
Occupation General Haulier
In presence of Alfred Ashley Smith and M A Critchley

Marriage
75/ 17th February 1940 Certificate for Marriage The Register Office Bury St Edmunds County of West Suffolk
Clifford George Elliston Age 26 Batchelor
Rank profession No 5825918 Lance Corporal Suffolk Regiment
Address Gibraltar Barracks Bury St Edmunds
Father George Robert Elliston Deceased
Occupation Millar
Lily Smith Age 26 Spinster
No profession listed
1 Risbygate Street Bury St Edmunds
Father James Smith Deceased
Occupation Haulage Contractor
In presence of R M Mums and E M Avis

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Apr 2022 11:03

Pleased to see you found your way back...................

Any comments on the help given this year?

The death is obviously the right woman..............................

She lied when she married Elliston..............

Glenise

Glenise Report 2 May 2022 13:24

Hi all I have sent for Lily Elliston Death Certificate to confirm if this is correct Lily Richardson Dryden will put info on when get it

Glenise

Glenise Report 2 May 2022 13:25

If any Elliston family members have any info be welcome thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 May 2022 13:56

ONLY if they are using GR on a regular basis will anyone connected see your post
Be pro-active - look in 'search all members' trees' to discover whether anyone at all on GR has any connection whatsoever. If you find someone has any of the names in a tree, send a message and hope for a response

Glenise

Glenise Report 11 May 2022 10:08

Thank you, still no death certificate for lily Elliston yet but will be on as soon as get it . Obviously Peter is waiting too as this is his maternal parent.

Glenise

Glenise Report 11 May 2022 13:19

Well guess what guys certificate came and yes it confirms that it is the same person albeit marriage certificate she lied.
Cert reads
entry 245
reg district Nuneaton and Bedworth
Administrative area: Warwickshire
Date of death: 6th Feb 1988
Address :11 Bell Vue Nuneaton
Name: Lily Richardson Dryden
Date of Birth: 26th November 1912
Address Newbiggin-by-the-sea Northumberland
Occupation and usual Address: wife of Clifford George Elliston engineering inspector retired 11 Bell View Nuneaton
Name of informant: Heather Owens
Qualification: Daughter
Address: 8 Kielder Drive Nuneaton
cause of death: 1 a Bronchopneumonia b Cervical Myelopathy
c rheumatoid arthritis
certified by R V Bannister MD .

I traced Heather but sadly she passed away . Heather had married a Karl R Owens
Marriages Dec 1965
OWENS KARL R. ELLISTON COVENTRY 9C 1403
ELLISTON HEATHER OWENS COVENTRY 9C 1403
children Nina and Adam
Births Dec 1969
OWENS Adam Karl ELLISTON Coventry 9c 2396
her son
and her daughter Nina
Births Mar 1967
OWENS NINA ELIZABETH ELLISTON COVENTRY 9C 1469

If any further information from any one be gratefully accepted hope this helps

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 May 2022 16:11

What further information are you hoping for, Glenise?

You have Lily's birth, marriages, and death, and also 1921 census and 1939 Register.

Glenise

Glenise Report 12 May 2022 08:42

I would now like to find Adam Karl Owens b1969
and
Nina Elizabeth Owens as they are nephew and niece of my cousin Peter whose birth mother was Lily Richardson Dryden who was also their their grandmother her daughter Heather M Owens Ne: Elliston was their mother
This is probably their mother's birth
Births Dec 1941
Elliston Heather Smith Warwick 6d 1568
If I do happen to find them I will put info on here.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 May 2022 09:22

If you look at the Electoral Rolls, under "Search" at top right of this page, and search for Adam, you'll see an entry for him with a hyphenated surname. (But search for him using the surname Owens.)

He was living in Nuneaton at least until 2016. If you click on the document symbol at the right of the search result, you'll see the full address.

That address has not been sold since then, so he and his family may still be there, if they have opted out of the public ER.
Try writing to him.

They were certainly still in Nuneaton last year. If you Google his wife's name you'll see there's a 2021 photo of her on the Facebook page of a Nuneaton driving school.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 May 2022 09:36

Someone named Nina E Owens, born 1967, is on the 2022 Electoral Roll for Nuneaton.

Of course I don't know if she's the woman you're looking for or not.
There are also three marriage records (1983, 1994, 2002) in Nuneaton for women named Nina E Owens, so one of them (or none - or possibly all) may be her.

Glenise

Glenise Report 12 May 2022 22:11

Thank you for the info much appreciated I shall continue to search with new information given

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 May 2022 09:26

A new thread has now been started on FLR……..

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1400132

Glenise

Glenise Report 17 May 2022 01:10

Hi All progress made today with information obtained on here I have actually had contact with wife of Adam Elliston-Owens grandson of Lily (maiden name Dryden) (1st Marriage Smith) Elliston. Son of Heather Elliston and Karl Owens. It was amazing to actually have contact and look forward to meeting up. My adopted Cousin Peter Wilkins ( born Alfred James Dryden) now has an actual bloodline family. I have forwarded the information to him. hoping he will now be able to speak with his family and find out more about his birth mother Lily Richardson Dryden. Thank you so much for all your help
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