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jenny

jenny Report 28 Nov 2022 16:38

i am looking for the family of Christopher Cyster
If ive worked this out properly, he had a son who was hanged for murder in 1888.
He caught a burgular in his house, beat him up and the burgular fell and hit his head.
He then tried to hide the body in a rubbish dump.
Christopher Cyster was married to Ellen susan Cyster. He was born 1850.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 16:43

What do you mean by 'family'?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 16:46

If THIS is your man, your idea about his alleged son is way off beam, I'm afraid, as is your birth year info

Name: Christopher Randolph Cyster
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1876
Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1900
Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, Southwark, England
Father: James Cyster
Spouse: Ellen Susan Harverson
Register Type: Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 16:49

No Cyster deaths in 1888 other than a one-year-old child

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:05

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Three Households, Chalfont St Giles, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England
James Cyster Head Married Male 46 1835 Carpenter Drayton, Middlesex, England
Eliza Cyster Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Hertfordshire, England
Ernest Cyster Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Hertfordshire, England
Leonard Cyster Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Hertfordshire, England
Reginald Cyster Son Single Male 4 1877 - Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England
Christopher Cyster Son Single Male 1 1880 - Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England
Lenora Hodge Visitor Single Female 11 1870 - Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England
Henry Cyster Son Single Male 16 1865 Agr labourer Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
The Village, Seer Gree, Seer Green, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England
Ellen Harverson Head Widow Female 38 1863 Living on allowance Newington, London, England
Albert Harverson Son - Male 13 1888 - Newington, London, England
John Harverson Son - Male 11 1890 - Newington, London, England
Christopher Cyster Boarder Single Male 21 1880 General labourer Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England


Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
CYSTER Ellen Susan 48 Amersham 3a 443

1911 Census For England & Wales
Threehouseholds, Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England

Leamon Cyster Head Married Male 38 1873 Woodman Chalfont St Giles Bucks
Louisa Cyster Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Seer Green Bucks
Hathline Cyster Daughter Single Female 13 1898 - Seer Green Bucks
Christopher Cyster Brother Widower Male 30 1881 General labourer Chalfont St Giles Bucks

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
ARCHDEACON Ellen Cyster Amersham 3a 1781
Cyster Christopher R Archdeacon Amersham 3a 1781

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:08

1921 Census Of England & Wales
3 Station Road, Yiewsley, Middlesex, England
Christopher Cyster Head Male 1879 41 Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England Labourer Mr W Williamson, Private
Ellen Cyster Wife Female 1876 44 London, England Household Duties -

1939 Register
31 North Road, West Drayton, Yiewsley and West Drayton U.D., Middlesex, England
Randolph Cyster 18 Jun 1879 Male Night Watchman Married 321 1
Ellen Cyster 28 Sep 1877 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 321 2

Deaths Jun 1953 (>99%)
CYSTER Christopher R 73 Uxbridge 5f 137

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:14

CYSTER, CHRISTOPHER RANDOLPH (MMN) HEDGE
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 499

CYSTER, AMY HODGE
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 456

CYSTER, ALFRED HEDGE
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 455

CYSTER, REGINALD JOSEPHUS THOMAS HEDGE
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 485

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:32

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
CYSTER James Alverstoke 2b 798
PHILLIPS Amelia Alverstoke 2b 798

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Mill Lane, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
Amelia Cyster Head - Female 35 1836 - Hampshire, England
James W Cyster Son - Male 11 1860 - Hampshire, England
Phillis S Cyster Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hampshire, England
Phillip J Cyster Son - Male 8 1863 - Hampshire, England
Henry F Cyster Son - Male 5 1866 - Hampshire, England
Florence E Cyster Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Hampshire, England


Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
BALDWIN Eliza Anne Amersham 3a 577
CYSTER James Amersham 3a 577

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
Baldwin James Watford 3a 519
HEDGE Eliza Ann Watford 3a 519

Name: Eliza Ann Hedge
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1847
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1870
Marriage Place: Sarratt,Hertford,England
Father: Philip Hedge
Spouse: James Baldwin
FHL Film Number: 993733

Name: Amelia Cyster
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Amersham, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1872
Volume: 3a
Page: 273

jenny

jenny Report 28 Nov 2022 17:35

wow, thank you!
Ive got most of the information from my mother who was the daughter of Christina Cyster, daughter of Christopher Cyster. she told me the story of the son who was hanged in1888. It seems there may have been some confusion in the story, but you have some information there that looks familiar particularly chalfont st giles and his wifes first married name was Harverson.
Its a pity because my mum is no longer here to ask more,
Thank you for your help, i appreciate it.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Nov 2022 17:39

Have you thought about looking at the newspapers for a murder about the right time. If th3 culprit was hanged the case is most likely to have been written about.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:43

BALDWIN, ERNEST CLAUDE HEDGE
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in WATFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 375


BALDWIN, LEMOND WALLACE CYSTER -
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 457

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:45

SO.........................this is the link to your other thread about WICKS


Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Cyster Christina L Wicks Uxbridge 3a 157
Wicks James W Oyster Uxbridge 3a 157

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:49

CYSTER, LOUISA CHRISTINA HARVERSON
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 815


Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Wicks Irene E C Cyster Uxbridge 3a 72

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 17:56

1939 Register
, Hillingdon, Hayes and Harlington U.D., Middlesex, England

William J Wicks 29 Dec 1900 Male Radio & Telev Service Enginee Married 82 1
Christina L Wicks 05 Aug 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 82 2
Irene E ? Farr 18 Mar 1920 Female Cinema Usherette Single 82 3
George W Farr 20 Nov 1921 Male Oil Works Filler Single 82 4

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2022 19:56

1911 Census For England & Wales
Orchard Grove Chalfont St Peter Buckinghamshire, Chalfont St Peter, Buckinghamshire, England

Thomas Willoughby Head Married Male 25 1886 Tiler's labourer Chalfont St Peters Bucks
Ellen Elizabeth Willoughby Wife Married Female 30 1881 - London Newington
Harold William Harverson Son before marriage Married Male 5 1906 - Seer Green Bucks
Edward Thomas Willoughby Son - Male 2 1909 - Bucks Amersham
Louisa Christinia Cyster Sister in law Single Female 9 1902 - Seer Freen Bucks


Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
Harverson Ellen Elizabeth Amersham 3a 1647
WILLOUGHBY Thomas Amersham 3a 1647

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2022 21:30

Christopher Cyster and Ellen Susan Harverson did not have any children.


If some earlier Cyster was hanged for murder, I don't see anything about it in the British Newspaper Archive - though could be badly mistranscribed.

jenny

jenny Report 28 Nov 2022 21:47

This all looks like my mum's, mum's family, it all fits.
I think it's a case of Chinese whispers, it's got mixed up as its been passed down. Not sure what to do with the murder case because there was a detailed story that went with it. It had come from a neighbour who knew the family, she told my mum, I suppose she could of got the date wrong.
Thank you so much for all your hard work.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Nov 2022 08:52

AG


Check Louisa Christina’s birth - posted at 17.49 yesterday

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Nov 2022 09:13

Jenny
Re your pm. It looks as though Argyllgran has already looked at the British Newspaper Archives.

For inof: you can do a free search - the results can be quite garbled but it can lead you to a specific edition.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Nov 2022 09:19

ErikaH -

Oops - I meant to say they didn't have any sons.