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Mike Report 29 Aug 2006 18:28

Thanks very much for the census of the Pinder's Mary, I'ts much appreciated. Best Wishes Mike


Julie Report 29 Aug 2006 18:50

Hi Mary, you looked up a Mary J Peel for me earlier and found her with her widowed mother,this has lead us to find her father mentioned on a mining disasters website - which has been very interesting! Could I please ask for one more favour - could you look on the 1861 for ANN PEEL born WALLSEND, Northumb. aged abt 34 with her husband ROBERT PEEL and children JOHN and EMMA. They should be in Northumberland. Also on the 1851 for ROBERT PEEL although they maynot have been maried then. Hope this isn't too much trouble but we're really excited with the earlier find. Julie


Mary Report 29 Aug 2006 23:19

Hi Julie I had a feeling that maybe Robert had been killed in a mining accident,so I too had a look and found he died at Morfa Colliery in Feb 1870.Very sad. Found more than you bargained for!!! 1861 Usworth,Durham Robert Peel Head 34 Pitman b Newcastle,Northumberland Ann Peel Wife 35 b Wallsend George Peel Son 11 Pitman b Millington Northumberland John Peel Son 9 b Millington Elizabeth Peel Daur 7 b Millington Emma Peel Daur 3 b Kelloe,Northumberland 1851 Bewick,High Row,Long Benton,Northumberland Robert Peel Head 24 Coal miner Putter b All Saints Newcastle Ann Peel Wife 25 b Wallsend Jane Peel Daur 3 b Long Benton George Peel Son 1 b Long Benton What an interesting family!!!! Regards Mary


Kerri Report 30 Aug 2006 00:37

Hi Mary Thanks for looking for my Sisman sisters. Could you find Susan Betts born 1808 at Gillingham,Kent in 1891 census? She was living in 1881 at Cottage Liver Street ,Teston,Kent.I found death of Susannah Betts aged 84 in June Quarter of 1892 & think its her. Can you also check 1901 ? Kerri


Ivesolvedit Report 30 Aug 2006 06:44

Hi Mary Looking for Ruth Kingdom and family 1871, Ruth born 1868 South Molton, Devon, (where registered) married Sidney Hatcher 1888, died 1911, Dorset. Have her for 1881 Cleave Farm, Kings Nymton, Devon. Can you help please? Also looking for John Hatcher census returns, born Ilminster 1827, married Jane Rendall, Yeovil 1854. Have him in 1881, Haselbury Plucknett with Jane and also have her for 1901, but can you confirm the address for 1901 please. Regards David


Julie Report 30 Aug 2006 09:31

Hi Thanks for the offer. Could you please look up anything on 1901 Census For Charles Gregory born c1870 London and His wife Elizabeth Jacques. I cant find anything on this couple not even there marriage. I know they had 5 children George,John,Winifred,Kit and Frederick I know Fred was not born untill 1908 and they all lived in Kensington area of London. Any Help Welcome Thanks in advance Julie


Julie Report 30 Aug 2006 11:14

Hello Mary Many thanks for all the info you provided last night. This is my husbands family and a couple of days ago he found his gt gt grandfather was a Captain in the Salvation Army. A lot more interesting than mine who are all labourers! Thanks again. Julie


Lynne Report 30 Aug 2006 11:22

Hello and thank you for your kind offer. I am looking for an elusive relative's birth or any information on him at all. I do know that he was born c 1831, which I realise is before any official records began. On his Army records he is stated as being born in Glasgow, but I cannot find any record of this. Then on the 1881 census in Perth he is stated as being born in Ireland?? His name is John Whiteman and he married an Emily Morgan in 1859 in Manchester. He then married an Elizabeth Adams in 1877/1878 in St Pancras London. I would be most obliged if you could find anything at all on this man! Also, if you have time Emily Whiteman, nee Morgan, must have died approx 1875-1877, could you possibly search for her death? Many thanks Regards Lynne


Mary Report 30 Aug 2006 15:51

Hi Julie I have found the marriage of Elizabeth Jacques/Charles Gregory on Freebmd. Dec Qtr 1901 Kensington 1a 459. You will need to send for the marriage cert in order to attempt to trace the parentage of both. Regards Mary


Mary Report 30 Aug 2006 17:00

Hi Kerri 1891 census Liver Street,Teston,Kent Susanna Betts Head 82 Widow Pensioner b United Kingdom Could not find her in 1901. Regards Mary


Mary Report 30 Aug 2006 18:05

Hi David Got a bit of info for you as follows: 1871 East Street,Hodges Court,South Molton,Devon (transcribed as KINGDON) James Kingdom Head 47 Ag Lab b Knowstone,Devon Susan Kingdom Wife 41 b Bishop Nympton,Devon William Kingdom Son 18 Shoemaker Jesse Kingdom Son 10 Elizabeth Kingdom Daur 9 Scholar Susan Kingdom Daur 8 Scholar Sarah Kingdom Daur 6 Scholar Ruth Kingdom Daur 3 Scholar Jane Kingdom Daur 10 mths All Children born South Molton 1861 East Street,South Molton James Kingdom Head 37 Ag Lab b Knowstone Susannah Kingdom Wife 31 John Kingdom Son 11 Working at Woollen factory William Kingdom son 8 Scholar George Kingdom Son 6 Scholar Mary Ann Kingdom Daur 4 Scholar Jesse Kingdom Son 10 mths Wife and all children born South Molton Images shows Kingdon as surname. 1891 8 Billots Field, Salisbury Cottages,Taunton,Somerset Sydney Hatcher Head 24 Corporal Somerset Light Infantry b Haselbury,Somerset Ruth Hatcher Wife 23 b S Molton 1901 1 Silver Street,Weymouth,Dorset Sydney Hatcher Head 34 Private Royal Garrison Regiment b Haselbury Ruth Hatcher Wife 33 b S Molton Hilda Hatcher Daur 9 b Taunton Ralph Hatcher Son 8 b Taunton Sydney Hatcher Son 3 b Totterdown,Gloucestershire 1841 West Street,Ilminster,Somerset James Hatcher 35 Labourer Not born Somerset Fanny Hatcher 35 Thomas Hatcher 15 Labourer John Hatcher 15 Labourer William Hatcher 13 James Hatcher 10 Ann Hatcher 8 Elizabeth Hatcher 6 George Hatcher 2 All except James (Dad) born Somerset 1851 West Street,Ilminster Fanny Hatcher Head Widow 47 John Hatcher Son 23 Journeyman mason Ann Hatcher Daur 18 Glover Elizabeth Hatcher 17 Glover George Hatcher Son Working at cloth factory All born Ilminster 1861 Frog Lane Haselbury Plucknett,Somerset John Hatcher Head 31 Mason b Ilminster Jane Hatcher Wife 25 Girth web weaver b Haselbury William Hatcher Son 7 Scholar George Hatcher Son 4 Scholar Henry Hatcher Son 3 Scholar Frederick Hatcher 1 All children born Haselbury 1871 North Street Haselbury Plucknett John Hatcher Head 42 Mason b Ilminster Jane Hatcher Wife 33 b Haselbury George Hatcher Son 14 Masons Labourer Henry Hatcher Son 13 Stable boy Frederick Hatcher Son 11 Scholar Charles Hatcher Son 9 Scholar Edwin Hatcher Son 7 Scholar Martha Hatcher Daur 6 Scholar Sydney Hatcher Son 4 Scholar Walter Hatcher Son 3 Scholar Ellen Hatcher Daur 1 Ann Hatcher Daur 4mths All children born Haselbury That should keep you out of mischief for a while!!!! Regards Mary


Mary Report 30 Aug 2006 18:37

Hi Lynne I have managed to find the following: John Whiteman/Elizabeth Adams marriage March Qtr 1878 Marylebone 1a 817. 1861 census Barracks Coventry St Michael,Warwickshire John Whiteman Head 29 Soldier in 4th Dragoon Guards b Scotland Emily Whiteman Wife 24 b Manchester William Henry Whiteman Son 1mth b Manchester 1871 census District Cavalry Barracks,Hulme,Lancs John Whiteman Husband 39 Farrier major in 4th Dragoon Guards b Glasgow Emily Whiteman Wife 35 b Manchester William Henry Whiteman Child 10 b Manchester John Morgan Whiteman Child 8 b Dublin Henry McDonnell Whiteman Child 5 b Tipperary Duncan Cameron Whiteman Child 4 b Kildare Looks as if he was posted to Ireland!!!! Hope this helps Regards Mary


dylan Report 30 Aug 2006 19:35

hi mary ah well... thanks for looking anyways. scott


Ivesolvedit Report 30 Aug 2006 22:57

Mary Thank you so much, absolutley brilliant. Did note the comment, 'not born Somerset' for James did it say where because I've always been led to believe it was. Note your comment on Kingdon, this has always been a problem. Will sort it eventually.... Regards David


Mary Report 30 Aug 2006 23:38

Hi David Thought you might be pleased with the result!! The 1841 census only shows if a person was born in County or not,does not even show where in the county they were born,also no relationship to the Head is shown. Trouble with anecdotal family history it is often incorrect.!!! Regards Mary


Ivesolvedit Report 31 Aug 2006 00:37

Hi Mary Thanks again. Got mixed up with James and John, James came from Marnhull, Dorset. As far as I am aware John and Jane ended up with 15 children the last 26 years after the first and when Jane was about 43, and people think they have a hard time these days, especially as benefits are available now! Thought my mum's family was doing well with 12. She's the grand daughter of Sidney. He died aged 91, 47 years a member of Wyke Regis Working Mens Club. I've kindly been given his Army documents on Vellum, he was in the Boer war, took his wife to South Africa that was where my gran was born. Thought you might like a little insight. David


Lynne Report 31 Aug 2006 11:12

Hi Mary, Thank you so much for your help with this, it really is appreciated! Kind regards Lynne


Lynette Report 1 Sep 2006 00:24

Hi Mary Thanks for your kind offer. Can you please look up Ancestry for James Winterburn born Guiseley 1782 marriage in 1802 to Mary Marshall born Otley 1783 and also Census 1841, 1851, 1861 entries for the family. Regards...Lyne


Mary Report 1 Sep 2006 12:29

Lyne I am sorry but there is no trace on 1841 census of James and Mary Winterburn. I assume you found the marriage on IGI but such an early marriage means that all children will have moved from the family home. You will have to go to Parish registers to identify their children,unfortunately Pariash registers on Ancestry are almost non existant outside London and I am therfore unable to help you with any lookups. A quick look at 1851 census shows hundreds of Winterburns in Yorkshire. Mary


Ivesolvedit Report 2 Sep 2006 19:05

Hi Mary I'll start on this and work backwards. Hope it's not too much trouble. For 1871 is it possible to look to see if there are any references for Cook or Cooke, that have a link with Ockbrook/Borrowash, Derbys. I don't require those for Ockbrook itself as I've done all those. If not many of these could you check 1861 as well please. Popular male names are John, William, Samuel, Thomas, Reuben, George & Charles females tend to Elizabeth, Mary & Hannah. Brief detail will do as it will give me something to work on. Kind regards & many thanks David