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ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2024 00:55

You say that John1840 was born 4th October 1840.

No, that's his baptism date.

John Michell
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name John Michell
Gender Male
Baptism Date 4 Oct 1840
Baptism Place Kenwyn,Cornwall,England
Father John Michell
Mother Christiana
FHL Film Number 246765

He was born July - Sept 1840:

GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 293

So you can discount the man in North Carolina - unless of course he didn't know his true birth date, which is always a possibility. - and which doesn't help!


Jink20 Report 16 Mar 2024 00:58

ArgyllGran- OP has listed subject of your 16 Mar 2024 00:31 entry as John Henry Mitchell-Eva on her tree on FMP. DOB 13 Nov 1860


ArgyllGran Report 16 Mar 2024 01:31

John Henry Mitchell Eva
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name John Henry Mitchell Eva
Gender Male
Baptism Date 10 Feb 1861
Baptism Place Baldhu, Cornwall, England
Bathsheba Eva
FHL Film Number 1545297

A private tree on Ancestry says he was born 1860 in Seveock Water, Cornwall.
That'll be Saveock, near Truro.

A public tree on Ancestry says born at Penstraze Farm, Saveock.

However, that tree, like so many others, takes a lot for granted.
It names John 1840 as his father, without any proof.

It has John 1840 in the 1851 census - then no sign of him until it suddenly claims that he married Barbara Teagle in 1903 - with no proof that that's the same John Miitchell .
1911 says that that man was born in St Sampsons, which is in St Austell reg district.. The corresponding birth is on GRO site, with mmn Harris.
Clearly not the correct John Mitchell.

Yet another tree (of many) gives John 1860's parents as Bathsheba Eva and an unknown Mitchell - but then gives the 1861 birth record with mmn Ennor.

A sad lack of research!


Nadia Report 16 Mar 2024 20:14

It is so hard. Thank you so much for all your help.

John Mitchell's birth was August 1840 but Baptism is 4th October 1840, Kenwyn Cornwall England. Don't know what middle name he has. HIs brother Joseph died in Silverbow Montana. His sister Elizabeth Ann also died in Montana. The other siblings in Cornwall.

I have all information on John Henry Mitchell his possible son. b.1860 married to Ellen Rabey, did indeed marry in Butte Montana in the States instead of Cornwall. He was a miner. Returned to Cornwall and died 1933. His mother Bathsheba Eva died in Cornwall and Bathsheba's sister Martha Eva died in Nevada, USA. This grandson grew up with the Mitchell & Eva families. Grandparents.

I only want to know where John Mitchell 1840 went and died. Did he start a new family if he went to the States. He is a possible father.


Nadia Report 16 Mar 2024 20:49

Yes Penstraze Farm in Saveock Kenwyn Cornwall correct.


ArgyllGran Report 17 Mar 2024 00:16

It looks like being something you'll never know the answer to.

Many of us have at least one brick wall in our trees, where someone just disappears from the available online records - or, as may be the case with your John, has such a common name that it's impossible to know which record might be the correct one.


Nadia Report 17 Mar 2024 11:28

Yes true, might never find him. It is such a common name. He is the only one that is a mystery.