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Sheila Report 11 Jan 2013 19:16

James & Phoebe Utting had other children besides Percy who died, they were William Albert my Grandfather and Maud , Ethel and Hilda my Great Aunts.


martynsue Report 11 Jan 2013 19:33

got to log of soon but here are a couple of site's for norfolk you may not have,

norfolk baptism project.
norfolk transcription archive,
if you google them you can then put them in your favourite's,these site's are free,
i will look in again tomorrow to see if you have found any info and see if you would like me to help you look through any record's.


Sheila Report 11 Jan 2013 20:38

Have now found out that Sarah Ann Utting did marry a John Fox in 1858 and he died in 1868 and she then married Robert Bensley in 1872 have found a census record of 1881 in which he is the head, Sarah is the wife and James Utting age 25 her son which she had in the Union Workhouse Swaffham, on his birth certificate the father is unknown so can only presume he was illegitimate!!. I have tried various websites to find records of the workhouse but think a lot of them were probably destroyed.
Am trying to find death details of Robert Bensley but can't find any that tie in with his date of birth which is c1821. Thank you for the help you have given me it has enabled me to put in place more details on my tree.


martynsue Report 12 Jan 2013 13:25

hi sheila,
robert bensley died sept 1896 aged 77yrs in the swaffham district.

on the 1891 census he was born 1819 at saham toney,
sarah was born 1830 in sporle with palgrave,
they were living in sporle with palgrave,
robert was a agricultural worker.
they also had a infant staying with them but no name is given.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jan 2013 14:59

(some Burials on above, Swaffham, if related)


Will of John Utting of Swaffham , Norfolk Date: 31 January 1855

(if related, on below link. £3.36 to download)


Sheila Report 12 Jan 2013 16:36

Thanks Chris


martynsue Report 13 Jan 2013 13:20

hi sheila,
is your james the one who was baptised at st peter & st pauls in swaffham,no father named but mother sarah utting ,it was on 7th december 1855.


Sheila Report 13 Jan 2013 14:47

Hi Martyn
I don't know when or where James was baptised but he was born on 20th October 1855 in the union workhouse Swaffham, so that could be the right information.
I have now got information on his grandparents, Sarah Ann's parents, they were Robert Utting born 1802& Mary Uttiing (nee Boyce) born 1806 and have managed to go back another generation to Robert's parents John born 1760 & Anne Utting (nee Smythe) born 1764, so have progressed a bit further. am now trying to find marriage and death details for those last generations!!


martynsue Report 13 Jan 2013 18:13

john 1760 & anne 1764 had quite a few children ,the child born 1803 was called smith utting,if you google this name a lot of info can be gained ready to varify,there does not seem to be a robert born 1802,if smith was robert it should be easy to find detail's on him.


martynsue Report 13 Jan 2013 18:24

i found a baptism for smith utting,

he was born 20th march 1803,
baptised 6 july 1806 at sporle with palgrave,
at the virgin mary,
parent's john utting & ann smith


martynsue Report 13 Jan 2013 20:05


all the family were born in sporle,so here is were you should be looking,
they used the virgin mary church in sporle,
children of john & ann.

maria 1786,
benjamin 1788,
james 1791,
mary 1796,
james 1799,
maria 1801,
robert 1802,
smith 1803,
edward 1807.

children of robert & mary.

mary ann 1826,
edward 1828,
sarah ann 1830,
elizabeth 1833,
james 1835,
as robert's children were born in sporle i would look for record's for the virgin mary at sporle,and then do surrounding churches.


Sheila Report 13 Jan 2013 20:07

The information I have on John 1760 and Ann 1764 is that they had several children as you say, the names I have are Maria 1786, Benjamin 1788, James 1791, Mary 1796, another James 1799, another Maria 1801, Robert 1802, Smith 1803 and Edward 1807 so not sure if Smith is really robert!!! although I found records for Robert Utting and Mary nee boyce and that is how I traced my great grandmother who gave birth in the union workhouse Swaffham!!! Will try and research as you say the smith utting to see what I can come up with. Once again thank you so much for the help you have given me so far.


Sheila Report 13 Jan 2013 20:12

Thanks think our last mails crossed! Will try now to find records of Sporle church