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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Jul 2015 18:12

Just find all your threads and add a last 'thank you' post. Don't delete them in case you need to refer or add to them in the future.

mgnv

mgnv Report 23 Jul 2015 21:16

1901 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000020135.pdf
[Wm says his pob=Ireland & relig=Presby & dob=25/10/1873
1901 Schedule 2 (with his street addy) seems to be missing.]

The rego district for Skibbereen is Skibbereen - Skibbereen is abt 65km SW of Cork and abt 20km SE of Bantry.
Although Wm's attestation has been altered to show his yob=1876, the original year before alteration was 1873.

1906 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001206446.pdf

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Manitoba / Winnipeg / 83 Winnipeg / page 32
20 335 Lavett William 1448 Arlington M Head M 1875 35
21 335 Lavett Graice F Wife M Sep 1882 28
22 335 Lavett Graice Maud F Daughter S Sep 1902 8
23 335 Lavett William M Son S Jul 1908 2
24 335 Courtney William M Roomer M 1872 38
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001956250.pdf
[I had difficulty transcribing Wm's occup, and thought his occup code might help:
7 Manufactures - Food and clothing
6 Employees, workers, operators, skilled workers
7 03 Drug manufacturer
Although it's a couple of months since the 1911 UK census, I presume Clara & the girls are still with her bro]

1916 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21934/pdf/31228_4363963-00649.pdf
[Childrens Aid Shelter - 101 Mayfair Ave. It's just S of the Assiniboine R, near The Forks]
[Wm will be off in Camp Hughes - Clara is not at 461 Henry.
I didn't manage to find the Macrae Block (616 1/2 Main St) in 1916, and there's no Courtneys there in 1921 - check out Davidson Anderson]

I wonder abt:
GROOM'S LAST NAME: POWELL
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: WILLIAM JOHN
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: COURTNEY
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: CLARICE JOSEPHINE
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 16/08/1922
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1922,029148

Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]

Maybe this guy:
Name: Wm John Powell
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father Birth Place: Ontario
Mother Birth Place: England
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg South
District Number: 4
Sub-District: Winnipeg (City)
Sub-District Number: 2
City, Town or Village: Winnipeg
Section Number: 331 Assinchorne Ave
Municipality: S Wpg
Occupation: Salesman
Income: 1150
Household Members:
Name Age
James Arnott 49
John James Gunia 36
Grace Hope Gunia 34
Cecil James Gunia 3
Eugene Brame 23
John Connor 29
Hugh Mc Kay 29
Herbert L Midforth 40
Mamie Campbell 31
Robert W Springay 20
Wm John Powell 20
Holman Ray Geo 2


There is a 1911 census aid showing which streets various subditricts (EDs in UK terminology) cover:
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/data/census/1911/winnipeg/
There are also a couple of maps there, both orientated such that N is at right edge.
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/data/census/1911/winnipeg/winnipeg1920.jpg
Donald & Assiniboine is 4 blocks W of Main, just N of the Assiniboine R.
Patrick crosses Logan 8 blks W of Main. Henry is one blk N of Logan, and 461 is at the junction of Patrick & Logan.
Redwood Bridge crosses the Red R abt 2km N of Logan (although one might think it's the Hespelier Ave Bridge based on the 1920 map).
Arlington is 9 blks W of Main - Manitoba & Pritchard are 5 & 6 blks S of Arlington.


Wm's CEF service file contains some puzzles.
I think you should try and find his pre-WW1 record on FMP/GR's
British Army Service Records 1760-1915
There's 41 hits for W/William Courtney.
It's a puzzle to me when he served - I guess the 7y with the Poyal Irish Fusiliers was around 1891-1898, but when he did 3y with the RFA is a mystery.
On p 17 of the record, on 17/8/1916 he says his mum was Ellen McNulty Courtney - she's a widow living in "Skipperine Co Tipperary".
So who was she? Searching in 1911 Tipperary gets no hits at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

However, there is a Co Cork hit:
1911 Residents of a house 11.1 in Lucia Place (Monkstown, Cork)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Courtney Ellen 70 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Cork - Can read only - Widow - - - -
Keleher Thomas 75 Male Brother Roman Catholic County Cork - Can read only Irish and English Single - - - -
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003952049/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003952050/ [poor-law union=Cork so rego district=Cork]

1901 Residents of a house 11.1 in Lucia Place, Passage West (Monkstown, Cork)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Courtney Michael 52 Male Head of Family R Catholic Co Cork Naval Pensioner Read and write - Married -
Courtney Ellen 50 Female Wife R Catholic Co Cork - Read and write - Married -
Kellepew Thomas 64 Male Brother in Law R Catholic Co Cork Labourer (Dock) Read Irish and English Not Married -
Morrisey Denis 25 Male Boarder R Catholic Co Cork Coach Man Domestic Servant Read and write - Not Married -
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000509668/
[I read Michael's age as 59]

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CORK - SOUTH PARISH

Marriage of MICHAEL COURTNEY of 16 WARRENS LANE and ELLEN SULLIVAN of 16 WARRENS LANE on 27 April 1879
Name MICHAEL COURTNEY ELLEN SULLIVAN
Address 16 WARRENS LANE 16 WARRENS LANE
Occupation N/R N/R
Father DAVID COURTNEY PATK SULLIVAN
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Recorded Parochial Area SOUTH PARISH (ST FINBARRS)
Witness 1 MICHAEL O SULLIVAN (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 BRIDGET DINEEN (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R N/R 43 CR-RC-MA-22305 cork & ross.south parish (st. finbarrs).p4780.00302

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/93daa70021276 [with image link]
The date is wrong for Wm's birth, so maybe Ellen's his step-mum.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 24 Jul 2015 13:28

I had posted the info that the daughters were in the Children's Aid Shelter in 1916 ...

I would agree that the marriage to Powell seems likely for daughter Clara Josephine born 1900 in Winnipeg


for info, in one of the many other threads, I believe it was pointed out that Skibbereen is actually in Co Cork and not Tipperary so the Irish censuses seem correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skibbereen

however the father in that Irish Courtney-Sullivan marriage is Sullivan

and the brother in the censuses is Kelleher

... so it's a little confused ...

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Jul 2015 16:40

Delores may not be looking for answers now

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/success_stories/thread/1353566