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Think this is the family (note brother Francis) as they are all born out of county


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Daykins Yard, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Thomas Potter Male 50 1791 - Transcription
Sarah Potter Female 45 1796 - Transcription
Elizabeth Potter Female 20 1821 - Transcription
John Potter Male 16 1825 - Transcription
Sarah Potter Female 14 1827 - Transcription
Thomas Potter Male 9 1832 - Transcription
Francis Potter Male 7 1834 -

Time to try to get more info on Fanny's father............

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Thomas Potter Head Married Male 21 1830 Lace Maker Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Martha Potter Wife Married Female 20 1831 Lace Mender Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England

@ErikaH - wow this is all great thank you. I think I am getting my head round it now.

Not 100% certain on this one as there's a second forename, but can't see another likely entry

First name(s) Robert Goodwin
Last name Wildin
Birth year -
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 04 Mar 1804
Denomination Anglican
Church St Stephen
Baptism place Sneinton
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Wildin
Mother's first name(s) Alice
Mother's last name Wildin
County Nottinghamshire

First name(s) Frances
Last name Wildin
Age 62
Birth year 1804
Death year 1866
Burial year 1866
Burial date 04 Feb 1866
Church St Stephen
Denomination Anglican
Place Sneinton


First name(s) Robert
Last name Wildin
Age 75
Birth year 1804
Denomination Anglican
Burial year 1879
Burial date 01 Sep 1879
Burial place Sneinton
Church St Stephen
Residence Sneinton Road
County Nottinghamshire



First name(s) Robert
Last name Wildin
Name note -
Marriage year 1822
Marriage date 13 Aug 1822
Marriage place Nottingham
Spouse's first name(s) Frances
Spouse's last name Bordison
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

Martha's parents


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Spring Place, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Robert Wildin Head Married Male 56 1805 Machine Smith Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Frances Wildin Wife - Female 57 1804 Needle Woman Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England


and siblings etc

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Street, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Robert Wheldon Head Married Male 47 1804 Machine Smith Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Frances Wheldon Wife Married Female 47 1804 Machine Smith's Wife Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Alice Wheldon Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Lace Mender Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Eliza Wheldon Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Lace Mender Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Robert Wheldon Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Machine Smith Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Hannah Wheldon Daughter - Female 12 1839 Lace Mender Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
John Wheldon Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Harriett Wheldon Grand Daughter - Female 3 1848 Scholar Carrington, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Richard Slaney Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1830 Machine Smith Carrington, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription

First name(s) Martha
Last name Wildin
Birth year -
Baptism year 1830
Baptism date 13 Aug 1830
Denomination Anglican
Church St Stephen
Baptism place Sneinton
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Wildin
Mother's first name(s) Frances
Mother's last name Wildin
Residence Old Snenton
County Nottinghamshire
Country England

You can't even rely on headstones having the correct information. On one of my grandmothers headstones it says she died age 44 - she was 42.

On my other grandmother's headstone it says she died 21st June - she died 4th June.

I have both birth certificates and both death certificates.

Even certificates can't always be relied on. The first of the grandmothers above added 5 years to her age when she married (there was a 19 year age difference between her and her husband). I don't think he ever knew her true age - hence the wrong age on her headstone!

Kath. x

@ Erika H I had wondered if there was a 2nd marriage somewhere

I have Fanny Potters age/DOB from the headstone where she is buried with Henry Cresswell - I know that these 2 married as I have the original of Elizabeth's birth certificate.
I always search with at least a year either side if I don't have any other source.
William is named on the records as her father on Free Reg
County Nottinghamshire
Place (with link) Nottingham

Church name (with link) St Mary

Register type (with link) Transcript

Marriage date 15 May 1880
Groom forename Henry
Groom surname CRESSWELL
Groom age 26
Bride forename Fanny
Bride surname POTTER
Bride age 27
Groom father forename Henry
Groom father surname CRESWELL
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname POTTER
Notes Bride signed X.
Transcribed by John Turton
Credit John Mellors
File line number 6579

Results:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
POTTER, THOMAS 31 Order
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 123

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
POTTER Martha Nottingham 7b 382
POTTER William Nottingham 7b 382

So Fanny named her stepfather when she married - not unusual.

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------
Potter Thomas Basford 15 705
Wildon Martha Basford 15 705


County Nottinghamshire
Place Basford
Church name (with link) St Leodegarius
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Marriage date 19 May 1850
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname POTTER
Bride forename Martha
Bride surname WILDON

Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
Donald Elizabeth Basford 15 705
Peach Ann Basford 15 705
Potter Sarah Basford 15 705
Potter Thomas Basford 15 705**********************
PRICE William Basford 15 705
Spray Joseph Basford 15 705
WATHER Joseph Basford 15 705
Wildon Martha Basford 15 705***********************

POTTER, JOHN WILDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 15 Page 430

POTTER, RICHARD WILDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 15 Page 472

POTTER, RICHARD WILDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 02C Page 472

Another spanner in the works

POTTER, HANNAH WILDIN Order
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 195

also on other thread posted by Chris Ho

Baptism
Place Carrington
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 10 Apr 1864
Person forename Fanny
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Martha
Father surname POTTER
Person abode Carrington
Father occupation Lace Maker

(also same below)

Mary Jane POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864
Sarah Ann POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864 Nottinghamshire
Richard POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864
Arthur POTTER Baptism 10 Apr 1864 Nottinghamshire Carrington

On the other thread re Fanny

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1371074

County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name (with link) St Mary
Register type (with link) Transcript
Marriage date 15 May 1880
Groom forename Henry
Groom surname CRESSWELL
Groom age 26
Bride forename Fanny
Bride surname POTTER
Bride age 27
Groom father forename Henry
Groom father surname CRESWELL
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname POTTER
Notes Bride signed X.
Transcribed by John Turton
Credit John Mellors

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

I think there's another thread about this woman - rings bells for me.

Clearly two families in the household in 1861

Martha can't possible be Frank's daughter, on two counts

One: age
Two; if she was his daughter and a widow, her surname would be different