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JUNE
Always, always use the GRO Index for births of children between July 1837 and ca 1919.
The birth registrations shown on that site also show the mother's maiden name (unless the child is illegitimate OR mother and father happened to have the same surname). That solves the problem neatly.
Then you can use Freebmd to find the marriage.
The site is free, but you have to register
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
That is what we all do, and you can do it very easily yourself.
But also, do please try not to post more than 1 thread per family, just add to your previous thread(s) if you need more information.
That saves the helpers from repeating searches already.
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Kay's post is quite misleading.
The GRO m.certs are mostly not arranged like Kay suggests.
What the GRO has is a copy of that quarter's marrs from each rego book keeper. They are put together and bound in a standard order.
Most rego keeoers are vicars in an established church, i.e., C of E or C pf W, so their pages will all be from their parish church, so to take a concrete example, I'll look at Leigh in 1837 - this date is a bit special, - all the parishes in Leigh RD were created out of chapelries promoted to parishes or parishes created out of the 2 ancient parishes in the area - Leigh and Winwick - the latter is mostly in Warrington RD, but this mostly didn;t happen until the 1840s/
Sept 1837
GRO p237 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 1-4
GRO p238 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 5-8
GRO p239 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 9-12
GRO p240 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 13-16
GRO p241 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 17-19
GRO p242 Blank
GRO p243 St George, Tyldesley Entries 1-2
GRO p245 Blank
Dect 1837
GRO p281 Parish Church, Newchurch in Culcheth Entries 1-2
GRO p282 Blank
GRO p283 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 20-23
GRO p284 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 24-27
GRO p285 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 28-31
GRO p286 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 32-35
GRO p287 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 36-39
GRO p288 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh Entries 40-42
GRO p289 St George, Tyldesley Entries 3-6
GRO p290 Blank
GRO p291 Leigh Register Entries 1
GRO p292 Blank
Until 1898, only the established church, jews, quakers and the registrars were authorized to keep official marr rego's, so a registrar would have to bring his official rego to a non-conformist ceremony for the couple to sign to complete the ceremony,.Often, these rego's were just used for non0conformist marrs, and not used for rego office marrs.. After 1898, non-conformist could apply to become persons authorized to keep official marr rego's. Usually thry were pasters, etc., in charge of a church, but the could be recorders for a circuit.
Only with circuit recorders and registrars attending non-conformist marrs are we likely to see marrs scattered about the district.
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Thanks for all the replies, regarding Kay's message, totally agree Benjamin & Elizabeth have the same ref. Nos 27&29, but they also have different line numbers ie 27 & 2 which has led to my confusion, Jane & Benjamin actually had 3 boys Joshua 1856, David 1853 & John 1852 . As already confirmed by Kathlene, Joshua's birth certificate shows Jane Evans as the mother and I have birth records for the other 2 which also tie up.
My best option, as I expected, will be to obtain a marriage certificate for the second marriage and also the first providing both Benjamins are the same.
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But details from Both Marriages (taken from Parish Registers FMP, where you see images) are on your other 'Thread'...(link posted).
I thought you had seen them, added by alviegal.
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380295
Chris :)
Edits (Rambling has also posted links for both)
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