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Maureen

Maureen Report 28 Jun 2020 23:40

I was looking for a marriage record of Albert Walton and Katherine O'Rourke/Rourke around 1903'1904 in Lancashire. On the LANCASHIRE BMD I found them married 1904 Albert Walton and Katherine Rorke Salford St Philip Church/Register. When i look on Ancestry marriages putting the same names in it shows Katherine Rorke marries nobody called Albert Walton but there is an Albert Avery.

Can anybody help find the marriage to Albert Walton ? i know they married and lived in Blackburn in 1911 with children. I need the marriage record to find the parents names.

Maureen

Maureen Report 29 Jun 2020 00:00

Just saw on the Ancestry marriage record there are only 5 names, in 1911 Albert Avery appears married to an woman called Agnes, one of the names on record.

Has anyone seen this before one name missing from the record.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Jun 2020 00:13

It does happen now and again. You can still order the marriage certificate if you want to just giving Katherine's name.

Albert's name does show up on Findmypast's record:-

First name(s) KATHERINE
Last name RORKE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1904
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

KATHERINE RORKE married one of these people

William Henry McColl, >>>>>Albert Walton<<<<<

District Salford
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8D
Volume as transcribed 8D
Page number 155
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

Maureen

Maureen Report 29 Jun 2020 00:19

Thanks Kath, i will do that just not seen this before.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Jun 2020 00:21

Just updated my last post.

Kath. x

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 29 Jun 2020 02:51

Freebmds Albert Walton 4 qt Salford
8d 155 However when you search for Katherine Rorke her number comes up as 8d 153.
Looks like a mistake on records

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 08:53


1939 register
Albert Walton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 4 May 1884
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 150
Residence Place: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Metal Polisher
Schedule Number: 182
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NBNF
Registration district: 474-2.
Inferred Spouse: Catherine Walton
Inferred Children: Annie Walton
Iric Walton
Kathleen Walton
May Walton
Household Members:
Name
Albert Walton
Catherine Walton Birth Date: 13 Jan 1880
Annie Walton
Iric Walton
Kathleen Walton
May Walton

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:09

WALTON, ANNIE ROURKE
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 95

WALTON, AGNES RORKE
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 347


ROURKE, KATE WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 191

Reg ties with a jan birth as stated on the 1939 register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:20

Name: Kate Rorke
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pendleton
Search Photos: Search for 'Pendleton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3712
Folio: 106
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Rorke 26
Sarah Rorke 25
Mary Rorke 23
Kate Rorke 21

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:22

All sorts of spellings

ROAKE, EDWARD WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 95

RORKE, MARY WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 120

ROURKE, ELIZABETH WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 120

Sadly so doesn’t help finding on census
Death
ROURKE, ELIZABETH 0
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 73


Another Girl given same name

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RORKE, ELIZABETH ANN WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 144

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:32

Name: Edward Rorke
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1898
Marriage Place: Salford, Christchurch, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Christ Church
Search Photos: Search for 'Salford, Christchurch' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Patrick Rorke occ labourer
Spouse: Sarah Davies
Reference Number: GB127.L189/1/2/7

Mary Rorke was a witness

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:37

Marriages Sep 1864
ROURK Patrick Manchester 8d 301
WHYATT Ann Manchester 8d

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2020 09:50

Name: Ann Whyatt
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Whyatt
Mother's name: Rebecca Whyatt
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 2926
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Whyatt 43
Rebecca Whyatt 43
Ann Whyatt 17
George Whyatt 14
Elizabeth Whyatt 8
Mary Whyatt 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 11:26

The error is in the transcription - not in the records

Have submitted correction to freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 11:35

From FMP

First name(s) Katherine
Last name Rorke
Sex Female
Marital status Single
Year 1904
Date 17 Dec 1904
Town Manchester
Place Salford, St Phillip
County Lancashire
Spouse's first name(s) Albert
Spouse's last name Walton
Spouse's sex Male
Spouse's marital status Single

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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Jun 2020 16:21

the banns (from lan-opc

Banns: St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England
Albert Walton - 21, Bachelor, 15 Corporation Square
Katherine Rorke - 21, Spinster, 15 Corporation Square
First Reading: 20 Nov 1904; Read By: E. B. Hooper
Second Reading: 27 Nov 1904; Read By: E. L. Hicks
Third Reading: 4 Dec 1904; Read By: E. B. Hooper
Notes: Married 17 Dec. '04 E.B.H. [C in margin]

edit - mistranscribed .Katherine is no 1 Corporation Square not 15

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Jun 2020 16:33

1901 - living in Salford


Name Age
Thomas Walton 44
Mary Walton 35
Albert Walton 17 - born Aston Birmingham as in the 1911 census
Julia Walton 19
Joseph Walton 21
Sarah Walton 22
Thomas Walton 24

Maureen

Maureen Report 30 Jun 2020 20:12

Thank you all for your replies i wasnt expecting so much extra information, i am helping the grand daughter of Albert Walton i have just logged in to ask for help in finding them in 1891 census. I do know its the right family as 1939 reg names confirmed with his grand daughter. In 1904 Albert son married and 1905 daughter Julia married i cant find parents Thomas or Mary though and other children in 1911.

I find Thomas Walton in 1881 in Aston Birmingham with family
Thomas is 26yrs wife SARAH and 4 children. I think Sarah may have died in 1888 , by the 1901 census Thomas is in Salford but his wife now Mary. Any ideas on who his wives were?

I havent started on the Rorke side yet so thanks for the head start.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 Jul 2020 11:29

All the children have mother's maiden names as Brookes/Brooks

marriage from FREEBMD

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Brookes Sarah Ann Aston 6d 421 <<<<<<<<<<<
HARRISON William Aston 6d 421
HINSON William Aston 6d 421
Perkins Elizabeth Aston 6d 421
Walton Thomas Aston 6d 421 <<<<<<<<<<<

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 Jul 2020 12:20

all the children seem to be in the workhouse in 1891 Julia is tyh easiest one to search for)

It is possible that father Thomas was a prisoner