Genealogy Chat

First question.......did your partner actually know her grandmother? If so, when and where did she last see her?

No her grandmother died when her father Charles Smith born 1931 was only around 7 or 8 years old and she remembers her father saying he walked to Hillingdon Hospital Middlesex when she died

Sadly , finding her birth is almost certainly an impossible task, for lots of reasons.

We don't know her maiden name, or where she was born.
The stated DOB may not be correct.
Even if the DOB is correct, there are hundreds of girls named Winnie or Winifred, registered in last 2 quarters of 1906 - including several born specifically on 1 Sept 1906.
She and Noah didn't marry.
We haven't been able to find the children all with one mmn.
In any case, they might not all have had the same mother.
As they were a travelling family, the children could have been born anywhere, all in different places.
Smith is one of the worst names to research.
The children's forenames as given in 1939 may not have been therir first names.
Their births might have been registered under Winnie's birth surname.

If your partner's memory is correct, then Winnie must have died shortly after the 1939 Register was compiled in Sept 1939.

But even if she died in Hillingdon, that doesn't mean her death was registered there.

Hillingdon would have been part of Uxbridge reg district at that time - but there's no death of a Win* Smith in Uxbridge 1939-50.


Looking at deaths in Middlesex as a whole, there aren't any which fit the DOB given in 1939.
The nearest in age would be these:

Deaths Dec 1948 (>99%)
Smith Winifred H 41 Ealing 5e 17

Deaths Dec 1942 (>99%)
Smith Winifred M 38 Fulham 1a 319

Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%)
Smith Winifred 31 Brentford 3a 389


The Brentford one might be interesting to look at, in view of the boys' births in Brentford.

Thank you Argyllgran i will go on that lead the trouble is being travellers and having the Smith surname a little bit tricky to say the least