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Good morning

Can someone please tell me how I search for a marriage before 1837 ?

Regards

Deb

This would be parish records. You can try looking at the big companies, family search or www.freereg.org.uk.

If it is Scotland you need Scotland People.

Where in the world?

ErikaH

It's in the UK, I'm thinking Middlesex area.

Deb

Do you use any of the subscription sites?

If so, try them..........if not, give us as much info as you can and we'll try to help

Hi ErikaH

Thanks for your replies.

The only sites I pay for are this one and ancestry.

I'm looking for the marriage of a John Marriott & his wife Catherine ?
I'm thinking seeing as she's was born in Middlesex and that's where their eldest child was born (whitechapel) then that's where they most likely got married?

Deb

Have you found them on any census

What about any children’s birth as that will give mums maiden name

Is this them on the 1851 census
Ann Marriott
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Marriott
Mother's Name: Catharine Marriott
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 17
Piece: 2027
Folio: 278
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marriott 42
Catharine Marriott 37
Ann Marriott 16
John Marriott 14
Mary Marriott 11
Emma Marriott 8
Ellen Marriott 4


Maybe

John Marrot
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1833
Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England
Spouse:
Catherine Connors
Register Type: Parish Register

John was born in Staffordshire


Daughter Emma baptism

Emma Marriott
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1842
Baptism Place: Saint Bartholomew,Wednesbury,Stafford,England
Father:
John Marriott
Mother:
Catherine
FHL Film Number: 497343, 497344, 497345

???

Catharine Marriott
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Catharine Marriott
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Marriott
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: High Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1l
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 17
Piece: 2027
Folio: 278
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marriott 42 - hatter
Catharine Marriott 37
Ann Marriott 16
John Marriott 14
Mary Marriott 11
Emma Marriott 8
Ellen Marriott 4



John and Catherine are the parents of Mary Maryott in your previous thread:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1395955

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Yes that's them in the 1951 census

John Marrot
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1833
Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England
Spouse:
Catherine Connors
Register Type: Parish Register

is this the only marriage thats fits ?

Deb

Daughter Mary Ann

Birth
MARRIOTT, MARY ANN CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 515

It seems to be the only one existing online.

Doesn't mean it's necessarily the correct one.

Possible birth of daughter Ellen:

MARRIOTT, ELLEN mmn COLLINS
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 574

ArgyllGran

Following on from that previous thread, I received the certificates yesterday and thats what brought me to look for the marriage of Mary's parents.

I also ordered the certificate for John Burkes death in 1869 but apart from the fact he died in a coal fall it didn't really throw up any more leads for me unfortunately.

Once again thank you for your help.

ArgyllGran
Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it


MARRIOTT, ELLEN mmn COLLINS
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 574

MARRIOTT, MARY ANN CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 515

wonder if these are 2 of the sisters and the name Collins/Connors has been transcribed wrong ?

Deb

Quite possibly.



Not helping with the current query, but John's mother appears to have been named Hannah:

Hannah Marriott
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Hannah Marriott
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Wednesbury
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Fletcher's Court, Market Place
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: Wednesbury
Neighbors:
Piece: 984
Book: 4
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marriott 30 - hat maker
Caroline Marriott 25
Hannah Marriott 53
Ann Marriott 7
John Marriott 4
Mary Marriott 2

ArgyllGran

Thats brill !!

Caroline Marriott - is this Catherine Marriott then, i'm assuming so ?

So it looks like Hannah Marriott's husband John isn't living with them at this point ?

Sorry for all the questions, I easily get muddled up and it doesn't help that they all seem to have the same names ....

Deb

ArgyllGran

So am I right in thinking that Catherine Marriott was born in Middlesex and so was her eldest child Ann, however, Catherine's mum Hannah was born in Staffordshire where they eventually settled ?

Doesn't that seem a bit odd for back in those times as I know that they didn't travel around much.

Deb

Hannah is Johns mum not Catherine’s !

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Ah so she is .. told you i'm getting confused.

Thanks