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Good evening all. My gx3 grandfather was born c 1839 in Germany, on all census records that I can find it is stated that he was a British Subject, what does this mean and how do I go about getting his birth certificate.

Thanks for taking the time to read this

Not sure but hope he escaped in time

lol me too

Although he was born in Germany, his father was a British subject and so he passed on his citizenship rights to his child. Just like today. (Mothers could not pass on rights back then, of course.)

You really would have done better to put this question on one of the actual family history boards. There are people who know more about foreign birth registrations - me, I know zip. Why not delete this one (I won't mind ;) ) and start one on the Records Office board where you'll find the experts? Many of them never look at the chat boards.

There is a possibility that he may have been born on an army base thereby getting British status.

Have you tried Kew.?

Was his father in the Army he could of been on an army base?

I have seen on other queries re. other British Subjects born abroad is that one or both of their parents are British so their Birth should be recorded on British G.R.O. not sure because i am Irish.Some else may know an let you know.
Good Luck.
Lily

Der as usual Janey comes up trumps but it is good advice...so maybe give it a go...you never know.
xx

I don;t know Hayley his father I found on marriage banns was a surgeon, the surname is Dippe descendants settled in Penarth South Wales, occupations of siblings of my relative were to do with ships and that all I know really.

xxxx

Would this be anyof them?


1871 Wales Census
about Henry Christian Dippe
Name: Henry Christian Dippe
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Holstein, Brunsbuttel
Civil parish: Penarth
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 31a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 243
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Christian Dippe 32
Ann Christian 33
Anne Christian 5
Magdalena Christian 2
William Thomas Christian 1 month
John S David 16
Thomas Cayduck David 16
Levi George 21

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Could he have been nutrulised (sp and correct word) was his parents German,

have you tried the birth records for militry born aboard. My father was born in India as his Father was serving there and his is there al though I have his birthcert anyway.

My Gt Grandfather was born in France British subject, I have never been able to find his birth certificate, he doesn't seem to have been registered at GRO. And I am sure his father must have died in France as well because there is no trace of him in England and his wife re-married as a widow.

Or this?


1881 Wales Census
about Henry C. Dippe
Name: Henry C. Dippe
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamburg (F)

Civil parish: Penarth
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 25 James St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Rigger

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 47c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry C. Dippe 42
Ann Dippe 42
Annie Dippe 14
Magdalena Dippe 11
William T. Dippe 10
Cecilia Dippe 7
Henry Dippe 6

yes that is the family

All Births on fmb

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1856 (98%)
Dippe William Henry Westminster 1a 256 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
DIPPE Magilena Cardiff 11a 260
Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
Dippe William Thomas Cardiff 11a 241 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
Dippe Cecelia Cardiff 11a 293 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Cardiff 11a 283 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Christian Pontypridd 11a 486 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Dippe William T Hookham Cardiff 11a 890 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
Dippe Christine M Hookham Cardiff 11a 834 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
Dippe Sylvia Hookham Cardiff 11a 844

ooo thank you, where did you find all that information

I can find no birth cert for Henry Dippe c 1839 either

Free birth, marriage, death

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
Dippe Ann 61 Cardiff 11a 217 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%)
Dippe Sarah Ann 20 Pontypridd 11a 259 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1921 (>99%)
Dippe William T 50 Cardiff 11a 441 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1928 (>99%)
Dippe Christian 89 Cardiff 11a 478

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
DIPPE Martha Ann St Pancras 1b 140 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Dippe Thomas Martley 6c 341 Scan available - click to view
Dippe William Thomas Woburn 3b 582 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
DIPPE Henry Christian Penzance 5c 563 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
Dippe Anne Cardiff 11a 390 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
DIPPE Magdalena Cardiff 11a 464 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Dippe Cecilia Cardiff 11a 537 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Cardiff 11a 514 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
DIPPE Henry Cardiff 11a 703 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1921 (96%)
Dippe Henry C Hockham Cardiff 11a 759