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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jun 2009 20:24

Hoobity - if you search the IGI for Dippe in Denmark, there are indeed some events, including Heinrich Gabriel Dippe born 1796 possibly married 1821, and marriages for the same name in 1846 and 1854.

Could be related, of course.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Jun 2009 20:21

Lotta work here with no response.

Anything?

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 23:01

It could be the wine but I am also seeing Dennmark or is that older generations...bare with me ( just had a disscussion with Oh as to which bare it was...bare bere or bear...well it is Janey we are talking to here.

No matter I defo saw Dennmark

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 5 Jun 2009 22:51

Hmmmmmmmmm. Someone also has her being baptised the same day in Germany -- also supposedly an extracted record.

MATHILDE EMILIE DIPPE
Birth: 14 JUL 1833
Christening: 25 JUL 1833 Evangelisch, Siegen, Westfalen, Preussen
Father: JOHANN ANDREAS DIPPE
Mother: DOROTHEA MAGDALENE TUELFF
Batch No.: K947291


The complete list of births for those two parents:

1. HEINRICH AUGUST DIPPE - Gender: Male
Christening: 02 NOV 1838 Evangelisch, Spenge, Westfalen, Preussen
2. ZACHARIAS FRIEDRICH HEINRICH DIPPE -Gender: Male
Christening: 08 AUG 1841 Evangelisch, Spenge, Westfalen, Preussen
3. MATHILDE EMILIE DIPPE - Gender: Female
Christening: 25 JUL 1833 Evangelisch, Siegen, Westfalen, Preussen
4. ANNE SOPHIE DIPPE - Gender: Female
Christening: 14 FEB 1847 Evangelisch, Bielefeld-Altstadt, Westfalen, Preussen


I wonder whether they were German, and the father was in the British navy or some such and thus got British status?


*Definitely* need Henry's marriage certificate to see who he named as his father.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 5 Jun 2009 22:46

But re the Heinrich in the IGI - check this one out (I just searched for surname Dippe, exact spelling, in British Isles):

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp


Mathilde Emiliel [Dippe]
Christening: 25 JUL 1833 Bywell Saint Andrew, Northumberland, England
Father: Johann Andreas Dippe
Mother: Dorothea Magdalene Tülff
Batch No.: C000262


Same parents as the one born in Germany! And born in England -- and this is an actual extracted parish record.

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 22:43

Have I! sorry just popped back on here after several wines...been looking at other websites just in case.

My family always say i like to repeat myself
I said my family always say I like to repeat myself lol

Will get to bed soon...sooner the better.

xxx

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 5 Jun 2009 22:39

You put the 71 and 81 censuses on page one already, hoobity. ;)

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 22:37


Henry C. DIPPE Head M Male 42 Hamburg (F) Rigger
Ann DIPPE Wife M Female 42 Pendeen, Cornwall, England
Annie DIPPE Daur U Female 14 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Magdalena DIPPE Daur Female 11 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
William T. DIPPE Son Male 10 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Cecilia DIPPE Daur Female 7 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Henry DIPPE Son Male 6 Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 25 James St
Census Place Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342272
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5289 / 90
Page Number 20

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 5 Jun 2009 22:37

I looked at that one in the IGI and thought the same.

TWG, do you have his marriage certificate, which should state his father's name?

Marriages Dec 1865
DIPPE Henry Christian Penzance 5c 563
Guy Ann Penzance 5c 563

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 22:36

Just grasping at straws now but!

Henry C. DIPPE Household
Male

Other Information:
Birth Year
Birthplace Hamburg (F)
Age 42
Occupation Rigger
Marital Status M
Head of Household Henry C. DIPPE
Relation Head
Disability

Source Information:
Dwelling 25 James St
Census Place Penarth, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342272
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5289 / 90
Page Number 20

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 22:34

I couldn't find him on Find my Past either

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 5 Jun 2009 22:32

The Find My Past births abroad don't have him

IGI from Germany
HEINRICH AUGUST DIPPE Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
02 NOV 1838 Evangelisch, Spenge, Westfalen, Preussen
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHANN ANDREAS DIPPE Family
Mother: DOROTHEE MAGDALENE TUELFF


but not an English sounding father

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 5 Jun 2009 21:45

TWG, you simply aren't going to find a British birth certificate for someone not born in the UK.

I have a notion that FindMyPast has some kind of index of British births abroad, but like I said, I'm no expert.

Glad to see you've now been pointed to FreeBMD, the No.1 indispensable first place to look for English & Welsh family history info ...

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 21:45

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
DIPPE Martha Ann St Pancras 1b 140 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Dippe Thomas Martley 6c 341 Scan available - click to view
Dippe William Thomas Woburn 3b 582 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
DIPPE Henry Christian Penzance 5c 563 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
Dippe Anne Cardiff 11a 390 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
DIPPE Magdalena Cardiff 11a 464 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Dippe Cecilia Cardiff 11a 537 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Cardiff 11a 514 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
DIPPE Henry Cardiff 11a 703 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1921 (96%)
Dippe Henry C Hockham Cardiff 11a 759

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 21:44

Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
Dippe Ann 61 Cardiff 11a 217 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%)
Dippe Sarah Ann 20 Pontypridd 11a 259 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1921 (>99%)
Dippe William T 50 Cardiff 11a 441 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1928 (>99%)
Dippe Christian 89 Cardiff 11a 478

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 21:29

Free birth, marriage, death

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

TeddyWelshGirl

TeddyWelshGirl Report 5 Jun 2009 21:29

I can find no birth cert for Henry Dippe c 1839 either

TeddyWelshGirl

TeddyWelshGirl Report 5 Jun 2009 21:28

ooo thank you, where did you find all that information

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 5 Jun 2009 21:24

All Births on fmb

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1856 (98%)
Dippe William Henry Westminster 1a 256 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
DIPPE Magilena Cardiff 11a 260
Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
Dippe William Thomas Cardiff 11a 241 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
Dippe Cecelia Cardiff 11a 293 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Cardiff 11a 283 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Dippe Henry Christian Pontypridd 11a 486 Scan available - click to view

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Dippe William T Hookham Cardiff 11a 890 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
Dippe Christine M Hookham Cardiff 11a 834 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
Dippe Sylvia Hookham Cardiff 11a 844

TeddyWelshGirl

TeddyWelshGirl Report 5 Jun 2009 21:22

yes that is the family