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Moral dilemma.........

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Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 18 Aug 2009 20:37

If you knew that a cash machine was paying out double......would you deliberately take advantage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207317/Tesco-ATM-goes-awry-Cash-machine-pays-customers-DOUBLE-operational-error.html

Joanne in Burgess Hill™

Joanne in Burgess Hill™ Report 18 Aug 2009 20:38

Yes I would!

Joanne x

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥ Report 18 Aug 2009 20:39

I don't think so................I would be the one caught on cctv and made to return the extra cash! lol

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 18 Aug 2009 20:44

LOL Joanne.......well done for being so honest !!! (If you know what I mean lol)

Kitty........that's kind of where I stand on it.

Though I wouldn't criticise ANYONE for doing it....

*** Mummo ***

*** Mummo *** Report 18 Aug 2009 20:45

I would hope l wouldn't but............what if you really were down on your luck and money was tight , l think a lot of people would.
Joanne, least your honest.

Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 18 Aug 2009 20:49

I wonder what the legalities of that are ?.......if you only made one withdrawal then I guess it couldn't be taken as " theft " as the machine is at fault...........but going back for more would definitely be very wrong .

On a similar subject , when I was a kiddie we used to visit a certain chocolate bar vending machine ( whilst on our way to Sunday school ! ) and if you put your shilling in the slot then two bars would always come out.......we took full advantage of that at the time.............lol..........but I knew it was wrong and I guess that's why the memory has stayed with me all these years .

My answer to the question you have posed Muffy is no I wouldn't take deliberate advantage .

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 18 Aug 2009 20:53

No I don't think I would. I am sure the last time this happened the bank didn't try and recover the money.

BarneyKent

BarneyKent Report 18 Aug 2009 20:55

After the bonuses that the big bankers paid themselves - of course I bloody would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 18 Aug 2009 20:57

I don't have any particular moral issue with it Bernie.......for that reason....

I just KNOW I can't get away with things like that.........never have been able to lol xx

me

me Report 18 Aug 2009 21:03

would i take advantage NO

Kay????

Kay???? Report 18 Aug 2009 21:04

Oh yes please
>where it happening:}

,,,,,,and I have had 40 extra when two lots of £20 new notes were stuck together few years ago,,,,too late to take it back after I spent it:}}}}}}

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 18 Aug 2009 21:21

WOULD I ,,,HONEST


MOVE OUT OF THE FLIPPIN WAY WOMAN



THINK I GAVE MYSELF AWAY THERE

UzziAndHerDogs

UzziAndHerDogs Report 18 Aug 2009 21:30

no moral dilemma about it YES I would,

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 18 Aug 2009 21:45

Muffy I'd love to say no I wouldn't take advantage......but I just don't know. I remember being at an ATM when a young boy was taking out some money and he left a note lying there. OH went haring after him to give him the money but I guess that's different.

Sue xx

suzian

suzian Report 18 Aug 2009 22:18

I'd rush into the nearest branch of the bank and return the lot....


Or not....


Sue x

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 18 Aug 2009 22:21

It is theft. Official definition - 'dishonestly appropriating the property of another with the intention to permanently deprive that person of it.'

Interesting moral dilemma. Most people wouldn't think of themselves as thieves for doing it, but that's what it is - plain and simple. Don't forget - all transactions are logged and you would be caught regardless of CCTV.

So are there 'degrees' of theft? I don't personally think so. Mitigation, maybe, but the end result is the same, is it not? Maybe the thought that the bank can stand the loss is mitigation in the mind of anyone who did it, but the same could apply to the Great Train Robbery or that big jewellery theft last week. Is taking a pencil or a wad of copying paper from your employer the same? Is stealing a book from Smiths acceptable? They could stand the loss just as much as the bank, surely?

The concept of what constitutes stealing is very interesting!

Joanne in Burgess Hill™

Joanne in Burgess Hill™ Report 18 Aug 2009 22:24

~~~~~~~~~~ back to Diane. xx

suzian

suzian Report 18 Aug 2009 22:34

Hi Eldrick

The concept of "what is stealing?" isn't really difficult - it just means "taking what doesn't belong to you"

More interesting are the lengths that people are prepared to go to, and the consequences......


ie, take a paperclip from work - does anyone care and will I get caught? - no, on both counts. So that's ok, then

take a pen from work - ditto

take a few spare quid from the malfunctioning ATM - mmmmmmmmmm

take a few quid from the cashier at the bank - NO

Sue x

BarneyKent

BarneyKent Report 19 Aug 2009 11:48

Had another think on this one.

I have just read that Sir Fred Goodwin, (yes, that's right, the guy who took £9 million in bonus from a bank the taxpayer bailed out), is back in Britain. He has hired two PR guys to help "improve his image".


Well I have had my rethink and:


YOU BLOODY BET I WOULD KEEP TAKING THE MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

Uggers

Uggers Report 19 Aug 2009 13:48

Absolutely and without hesitation or moral trauma. Not theft in my book. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you not being given something that doesn't belong to you.