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Lieutenant Alfred John BALL b. 1889 Camberwell

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DIZZI

DIZZI Report 26 Jul 2010 12:23

LOOKS LIKE CONCUSSION OF THE BRAIN
FRACTURE LEFT CLAVICAL
8 FRACTURED RIBS
VERDICT ACIDENTAL
BURIEL ,BY FRIENDS?

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 26 Jul 2010 12:15

FOUND THIS
ALFRED BELL DIED OF BRAIN 7 other FRACTURES AND CONCUSION
Name: Alfred Bell
Record Type: Death
Event Date: 1 Mar 1923
Death Date: 01 Mar 1923
Poor Law Union: Islington
Borough: Islington
County: London

living at 4 trinity street
i have copy of details

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Jul 2010 19:39

THE PM'S PRE 1909 LOOK INTERESTING
AND ,MAY HELP SOME

James

James Report 25 Jul 2010 18:47

Dizzi
Well that looks like a good site to monitor for those PM's pre 1909.
Thanks
Jim

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 25 Jul 2010 08:24

HAD A THOUGHT IF AN INQUEST FOR DEATH BUT MAY COME UNDER 100yr RULES
I LOOKED ON HERE
http://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/GetRecord/SHCOL_2557
BUT ALL COME UP LATEST 1909

Choccy

Choccy Report 25 Jul 2010 07:25



Wow Jim, what luck. Wish I had some funeral directors in my family!

Thanks for the update.


James

James Report 25 Jul 2010 04:28

Hi Choccy
I have found another way to prove it.
In the family is a well established chain of Funeral parlours.
They have a copy of an invoice for this partiular family funeral in their archives.
Died: 03/01/1924
Buried: 6 Jan 1924 Camberwell Old Cemetery.
Was living at time of death, 93 Burbage Road, Dulwich.
Even have all the actual costs, etc etc!
What luck!
Jim

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 17 Jul 2010 03:01

Sorry James, I cant help you.
I've got no Balls at all in my family tree.



xxxxx mick

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 17 Jul 2010 01:10

oooooo is that Zoe Ball and her Father Johnny Ball?

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 16:19

Re GG Ormsby - Don't think this is relevant. Jim - Have to stop for today but will pick it up again tommorow.

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 16:17

This is very true and they (William E and Rosina M had a famous son! If you are English and watch TV). Jim

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 16 Jul 2010 15:46

Alfred J Ball was a witness at His brother William's wedding in 1913.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 16 Jul 2010 15:14

No...It is G.G. Ormsby??

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 16 Jul 2010 15:10

Will get back on that Jim

His brother William Ernest Ball married Rosina Mary Thornton in 1913 Southwark, so the connection is there.

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archive,Emmanuel Congregational Church,LMA/4091/002, LMA/4091/002

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 14:38

I see that St Stephen at Walworth Common was a Mission. Alfred John's grandfather William John Ball 1826-1919 was a City Missionary. Maybe he was baptised by his grandfather? Does it say? Jim

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 14:23

Many thanks Susan.
He became a Lieutenant in the Royal Engineers serving at Galapoli, Egypt and France. I have not found his war records though only his Medal Card?
Jim

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 16 Jul 2010 13:43

I have added to my post below.

At his baptism the family were living at

3 Glengall Road. Old Kent Road

The baptism was Oct 6 1889 In the Parish of St Stephen's Walworth

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 13:37

Hi RR - This is interesting and when the 'applied for' BC arrived then I will be sure of the birth address - if it was at home - great. So have down loaded the forms just in case. Jim

James

James Report 16 Jul 2010 13:16

Thanks Susan - I'll check the piggy bank now. Jim

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 16 Jul 2010 12:42

I have searched too 2 years either side of 1923 and the Southwark one is the strongest possibility. On the strength of this I would certainly buy the certificate.

Edit: His baptism was in Southwark too

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alfred John Ball
Name: Alfred John Ball
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 Oct 1889
Father's Name: John Josiah Ball
Mother's Name: Eliza Ball
Parish: St Stephen, Walworth Common
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

birth August 16 1889 They lived in Old Kent Road