General Chat

Are the death records incomplete? Is it just random whether a name got in to them?

To practice in how it works, I have searched on some British deaths of folks who I knew, so knew the exact date for. Some are just not showing, in the same periods and regions as others that are showing, and this includes one as recent as 1984.

Not sure why you cant find them they are complete. do you want to give name so can have a look for you

deaths are registered in the area they occurred. its possible someone died at an addess that came into another area, also if the death occurred at the end of a quarter it may have been reg just into the next month so would be in the following qtr after death

I think as in all records there is always a margin for error, and yes some may be missing...thats with out allowing for mistranscriptions...

I can`t find my grt grandmothers death at all.. been looking for years......I now know she was alive in 1911 as she appears on the census, and know fact she was dead by 1948 when my mother started dating my father, apart from that I can`t find her at all...and at £9.25 a shot i don`t want to order certs without being pretty sure its her...

so yes I feel they could be incomplete...



Nicky.

Don't forget that the name the person was born as may not be the name they commonly used, they may have used a second name by which the informant may have known them.

I can't find my Gt. Grandmothers death anywhere either. Born Tullett, married a Newman and then married a Chandler. Still alive on 1911 census. Did she marry again or has she disappeared into thin air?

I have just about given up.
Phyll

Shirley - Timothy Hunter Davies 26-4-1984 in south Glamorgan ?

will take a look Maurice

how old was he ??
is this one a possiblity
Name: Timothy Davis
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1951
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1984
Age at death (estimated): 32
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 37
Page: 818

NOPE !!! found him its 1985!!!
Name: Timothy Hunter Davies
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1967
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1985
Age at death (estimated): 17
Registration district: South Glamorgan
Inferred County: South Glamorgan
Volume: 28
Page: 2723

Was there maybe an inquest so his death registration wasnt til after the inquest.
A document would have been issued so the funeral could take place pre the Inquest.

I also have had trouble trying to find death date of my Dads b.rother. He was present in 1911 census and the trail ends there. It has never come up anywhere at all.
I have heard that Non Conformist records, are not always on lists, due to being forgotton or damaged.
Sue

Susan
Religion doest affect the records. All deaths have to be registered in order for a funeral to take place. Sometimes when there is an inquest the actual registration doesnt take place until the coroner authorises it and the informant will show as the Coroner

Maybe your dads brother went abroad, lots did in the early part of 1900,s Or maybe he went to Ireland or Scotland which would be different records

Shirley,
Its a very odd situation. I cant ever remember his name being mentioned., but another bro.,who was killed in WW1 had alot of mentions from my Gran., There is only one living cousin, and she had never heard of him either, but he was present in 1901 and 1911 census forms.!!
Interestingly, a couple of nephews have been called Christopher, and another Frank, both his christian names.!! So I dont think he was a 'black sheep'.
One of these days ...............! Sue

Sue, Christopher Frank Who??

nicky would you like someone to have a search around for you,happy to help if i can. what was gr grandmas name and date of birth and any other details you have, area etc?

I found this thread very interesting.

My Dad died about 4 years back. Anyone searching for him in the future would probably look at his home town, Barnet, London, where he lived for many years, but they won't find him: he had gone away for a few days, was taken ill and died in hospital...... in Worthing, Sussex. No-one in our family has ever come from there so no-one would be looking for him in that district.

I put a really big comment about it on my family tree!

Thanks Florence..


Her name was Margaret Ann Furniss{ could be Furness} nee Leslie born 22nd June 1849 in Little Bolton Lancashire.

She married Charles Furniss in 1875 when they already had 5 children and they lived in the Chorlton area of Manchester.
She appears as Margaret A or Ann on every census except 1911 when she is just down as Margaret Furniss/Furness
Husband Charles died December 1911, though there is no mention of Margaret on the death cert. Death was registered by his son in Law..

He was married to Dora my grand mother and they were all living together at Claremont Road Moss Side on the 1911 census.
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In 1922 my grandfather was Nateuralised { He was greek} and him Dora and their 5 children were still living in Manchester.

My grandfather died in 1926 in Brockley South East London where the family now lived...though not sure when they moved there.


Dora had living with her in London 2 of her elder sisters Margaret and jane, they both stayed with her until their deaths in the 1950`s, so feel if her mother had been alive then surely she would have gone to London with the family as well, but can find no death for her in that area either. I have never succesfully traced any of their other 3 children John william, Charlotte and Emma either after 1911 so theres a chance Margaret could have been with one of them.

so its a needle in a haystack...she may have died in the Manchester area, she may have died in South London, she may have died somewhere completly different...all I do know is that she was alive at the time of the 1911 census.

For reference..

FURNISS, Charles Head Married M 85 1826 Retired On Pension Derby Derbyshire VIEW
FURNISS, Margaret Wife Married
44 years F 62 1849 Bolton Lancashire VIEW
FURNISS, Margaret Daughter Single F 42 1869 Davenport Cheshire VIEW
FURNISS, Charlotte Daughter Single F 39 1872 Levenshulme Lancashire VIEW
FURNISS, Jane Daughter Single F 36 1875 Sewing Machinist Manchester VIEW
FURNISS, John William Son Single M 32 1879 Traveller Manchester VIEW
FURNISS, Emma Daughter Single F 26 1885 Manchester VIEW
BELLAS, Nicholas Isidor Son-In-Law Married M 50 1861 Accountant Constantinople VIEW
BELLAS, Dora Daughter Married
6 years F 29 1882 Manchester VIEW
BELLAS, Emily Granddaughter Single F 15 1896 Constantinople VIEW
BELLAS, Isidor Plemor Grandson Single M 14 1897 Constantinople VIEW
BELLAS, Sylvia Nina Lucy Granddaughter Single F 4 1907 London VIEW
BELLAS, Glory Margaret Granddaughter Single F 0 (JUNDER ONE MONTH) 1911 Manchester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23916 Reference:
RG14PN23916 RG78PN1380B RD464 SD4 ED51 SN172

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Hulme Enumeration District:
51 Parish:
South Manchester

Address:
33 Claremont Road Moss Side County:
Lancashire

Nicky

nudging for Maurice.!!