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nearly £160. - and that is with A.e books!! Thought it would be an interesting read - Notorious strumpets and dangerous girls. Re transportees to Australia.

LOL.

Have you tried ordering it through your library? They may be able to order it in from the British Library if there are no copies available in your County.

Jill

Am just going to do that Jill - will let you know! Its not that old a book printed in 1990.

Do not recognise either title or author - not on line anyway. Will try when next I visit library.

National Library of Wales ???

2 Mar 2007 ... Notorious strumpets and dangerous girls : convict women in Van Diemen's Land, ... Transportees from Gloucestershire to Australia 1783-1842, ...


Jill

Published in Australia?

Tardif, Phillip. Notorious Strumpets and Dangerous Girls - Convict Women in Van Diemen's Land 1803-1829. North Ryde: Collins/Angus & Robertson, 1990.


Jill


(you could try adding Australia to thread title to see if any of our Aussie friends can help ...

It's AU $35 on line!

http://www.gould.com.au/Notorious-Strumpets-Dangerous-Girls-p/tdf001.htm

Something like half that figure in pounds, I think, if not less.

There has got to be something about that copy you're looking at -- which I think is probably this one, with currency conversion:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0207157987/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

Price at a Glance
List Price: $89.95
Used: from $401.32

Signed first edition??

There seem to be numerous in that price range. Beats me.

JaneyCanuck I agree that the expensive copy is most likely to be a first edtion and signed,

I f like my husband who really enjoyed Stephen King books then decided to buy only first edtions I think that the post you put up
re price is about right.
I will not tell you how much it cost for one or two or three of the books that my husband bought !!!! we do still have them all!!!

Chris, the earlier entry by Janey for Au $35 refers to a CD Rom, I believe.

Apparently it's searchable and it won't take up room on your bedside table.

You wouldn't want to spill your mornin' cuppa on it, would you?

Have you tried Amazon? I have managed to find some obscure,out of print books on there at cheap prices.

Edit,just had a quick look for you ,didn't find the one you mentioned but,there is one called "Depraved and Disorderly,Female Convicts Sexuality @ Gender in Colonial Australia" by Joy Damousi used from £109.

There are,however, some similar history books on the same subject at much cheaper prices.

This thread reminded me of a book I read recently, bought from Poundland but a hardback by Sian Rees - an extraordinary true story of an eighteenth-century ship and its cargo of female convicts.

Really fascinating from July 1789 about a ship called the Lady Julian and based on lots of records and accounts of the voyage etc.

It's called The Floating Brothel.

Lizx

Ah, I didn't check back, the one I posted first is the CD Rom? When I saw that existed, I thought maybe the expensive one was that, since apparently it has all sorts of maps and records and things.

I guess that's maybe why the book itself is so expensive, because apparently it has complete records of all the women transported to Australia. plus probably a lot of colour plates and such - ?

If you don't mind my asking this question on your thread, Chris.

If anyone finds a book called 'The Diary of Adam Star(r)' published in Jamacia in the very early 1960s - where this diary was found in an attic in 1961 - will they kindly give me a nudge, please? I've been searching for this paperback for many years but I can't find any reference to it - anywhere!

It's about the very sad 'life' - if you can call it life! - on board a slave ship. Those poor beggars never had a chance at life! I read it in the early 1970s and would love to read it again.

Many thanks.

Barry

Sorry Barry - tried Abe Books - nothing there.

Yes, I've drawn a blank over the many years in my searches, too, Chris. It's almost as if it never existed!

I wonder if I should contact Oprah!
Jus' askin'. I'd really love to read it again, though.

Thanks for looking tho' Chris.

Ciao.

Barry

Barry
Not what you asked for, but maybe of interest...?

http://www.history.umd.edu/slavery/resources/plummer_diary.php

Gwyn

Thank's Gwyn, that's interesting. I might contact them.

Regrettably, I cannot recall where this ship was bound those many years ago. It was possibly an English ship.

Ciao.

Barry

Edit: I have sent e-mail to their history department. A case of 'wait and see'.

Barry -- if this doesn't work

http://books.google.ca/books?id=cRA8_5BKEz8C&pg=PA220&lpg=PA220&dq=%22adam+starr%22+slave+jamaica&source=bl&ots=g8gIzWrQwk&sig=_l-TmYphZVQATDbQqcGSja4msdY&hl=en&ei=bDE3TZeeKIaKlwe4rcncAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22adam%20starr%22%20slave%20jamaica&f=false

google

"adam starr" slave jamaica

and it's near the top of the results

It's footnote 66 on page 220 of the book

If we must die: shipboard insurrections in the era of the Atlantic Slave Trade
by Eric Robert Taylor

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/452284.If_We_Must_Die

and it reads

Adam Starr, journal entry, August 21, 1781, quoted in McGowan, "African Resistance", 20-21

googling

"african resistance" mcgowan

I find more references to it, but not info about the paper itself! Ah, another book contains this:

W. McGowan, 'African Resistance to the Atlantic Slave Trade in West Africa', [in] Slavery and Abolition, Vol. 11, No. 1 (May 1990), pp. 5-29

I'm just thinking that if you could find that paper, it would have bibliographic info about the Adam Starr journal.

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a794049298~frm=titlelink

... It costs $34.00. But maybe the journal Slavery & Abolition is available somewhere you can access it ...

Janey, thank you so much for that info!! I cannot understand why this info. has not been revealed when I Googled over time! Oh well. At least after all these years I know I wasn't imagining Adam's name!

Now to try and find the book.

I owe you one, Janey - I'll have to pop over and shovel your driveway. (I hope it's a small one!)

Ciao.

Barry