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An alternative approach -

Parents who lose a child never recover.

Our son has not communicated with us for a few years because he is ashamed of us living on a council estate ( we bought our house ) ashamed of us living as we do, wanted us to store his stuff in the attic, he was given numerous emails to come and collect it, he hasn’t so it will go to the tip and I know if he saw what was going he would come and get it, his loss not ours. He can’t have it both ways.
So goodness only knows how we will end up but he will get nothing from me after my death.

Dermot, sadly, I believe that is true. It's not the right order is it?

I feel for the grieving parents. <3

My children owe us nothing.

It was our decision to have them and therefore we can't complain about how much it has 'cost' over the years to raise them.

I did have one colleague back in the UK who was always going on about how much money he and his wife would have had 'by now' if it wasn't for their children.

Our two children do do things for us such as look after our computers, but they both work and have their own lives to live :-D

They both live within easily travelling distance of us and we see them frequently.

Husband and I are currently at odds over wether to have children. I told Mr Owl on our third date that I wanted a child. Since then his relationship his four children has broken down entirely. I think us having one would help him realise the love of child. I have it with my dad and Mr Owl has it with his step dad. Mr Owl has now announced he doesn’t want one. I’m seriously considering an accident this year just one as that’s what we agreed on four years ago. I wonder if having another one would change his view but one is all we have due to age and a possible genetic issue. If I don’t carry the gene too though the chances are zero.

I should add we would never expect child to look after us in old age but my desire to be a mother now at 35 is painful.

Many years ago when our daughter was about 20 she told me that she'd never put me in a home. :-D

I'm going to hold her to that. ;-) :-D

Not sure what her OH would say though. :-D

to go back to Rambling's opening post.


I do think that T Markle was (and is) owed some civility and plain good manners.

He seemingly has never met Harry.

But then the Queen and other Senior Royals are also owed some civility and good manners.

I'm sure Harry was taught those in his formative years.

Perhaps that is all we should be owed by our children??

I can't say anything about the genetic issue you mention Tawny but on age I can say don't lose hope. My sister had her first child at 38 and her second at 46 - completely natural too.

Sylvia, spot on! I agree with you.

It beggars belief that Harry did not meet his future father-in-law before marrying Meghan even if they may have not seen eye to eye on things. If it was awkward the visit could have been kept short.

If I'd been in Mr M's position I would have been miffed to say the least.

I can't believe that no senior member of the Royal Family advised Harry to meet his future f-in-law, but perhaps they did and the advice was ignored.

There's such a can of worms in there somewhere.

The genetic issue is microcephaly but I have spoken to a doctor about it and they believe the risks are low enough for me not to be tested. So we’re going to cross our fingers and see what happens on the baby front. Mr Owl admitted tonight that whilst he will find it hard he’s not totally against a child.

Fingers crossed then Tawney.

I watched the TM programme and feel all this unpleasantness could have been avoided had Meghan taken Harry to meet her father. She was obviously close to her Dad and loved him a lot so it's sad to see the way things have added up.

Tawny, don't give up hope. I dearly wanted children especially after losing my daughter so when my boyfriend in Malta said he was concerned we had left it too late (I was 34 and he was 30) w decided to try for a baby. I fell pregnant during the first week of trying and my son arrived 2 weeks before my 35th birthday.

Just make sure you both eat healthily and take folic acid beforehand.

Lizxx