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Deaths following the Oxford Astra Zenica jab

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**Ann**

**Ann** Report 12 Apr 2021 13:57

Exactly Shirley!

Am sure I read on one of SAGE papers that they were now going to add this as a side effect on the accompanying leaflet.

I think that has been a problem from the start..the non sharing of information with the public.

Looking at the side effects that have been reported on the Yellow Card system the clotting is one of many.....looking at the leaflet that my husband brought home there are very few side effects listed that would make you worry too much.

I just wonder if they had trialed it till 2023 as per the stated end date...would all these more serious adverse events have come to light




:-(

Island

Island Report 12 Apr 2021 14:00

Thing is Ann, how does anyone know they have a blood clot until it's too late? Some signs and symptoms would be useful.

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 14:06

This is a general chat board Island and I am sure that many people have been 'pontificating' over this issue. I am sure I am not the only person to chat with children. It is good to talk.

You are very sensitive if you believe that I was taking the P out of your condition. As I wrote, it is the same that my Mum had.

My reference, as you very well know, was to younger people taking steroids and protein drinks without the need to do so.

Report me if you like but I think you have taken unncessary offence.

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 14:24

Oh dear Island, then there are quite a few threads on here that you would label claptrap, I think.

I should think that my daughter and I are by no means the only ones to muse over possible reasons for deaths in younger people following the covid jab. We discuss all sorts of things but in this instance I thought it was interesting enough to post and see what others have talked and thought about as far as this subject is concerned.

Island

Island Report 12 Apr 2021 14:33

Oh dear Joy........ is the tip not open where you live?

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 14:43

Speak your mind, Island, instead of innuendoes.

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Apr 2021 14:44

For what it's worth.....I read somewhere that many people seem to have more of a reaction with their second jab than their first...not necessarily major bad reactions but more likely to have a sore arm etc. The injection site looking slightly raised and coloured is meant to mean the vaccine is working they say....obviously not bright red and swollen though that's probably an infection.
My first jab was from a doctor and I didn't feel a thing at the time, he told me to relax the arm down by my side otherwise the muscle is tense. Also I made sure it was in the arm I don't sleep on!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Apr 2021 15:16

Sorry I,m lost here

Is this a private fight?

Thought the thread was about COVID jabs?

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 12 Apr 2021 15:26

Island.....I think the “specialists” are now saying that if you have a headache for 4 or more days after the injection..and you are not usually a sufferer of headaches you must refer back to your health care provider...other than that I have not got a scoobie.

After Boris standing there and telling us it is perfectly safe, (presumed advise passed on from the experts) I find it all very worrying :-(

I read that also Caroline about the second shot....but again one size does not fit all and many people will have no immediate adverse reactions.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 12 Apr 2021 16:12

Everyone is different and will show different effects from medication. I nearly died from a reaction to Penicillin and I am also allergic to some Ampicillins. It is small number of cases of Blood Clot cases in comparison to the number of Jabs given and will not deter any of my family having either first or second jabs.

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Apr 2021 16:35

Ann over here they're saying if you still have any reactions after 2 days to seek medical advice but yes there's no one size fits all ever in medicine.

Island

Island Report 12 Apr 2021 16:38

Shirley, no, it isn't about the covid jab. It's about unfounded speculation as to what might have caused blood clots.

Island

Island Report 12 Apr 2021 16:40

Remind me someone, what was the content of my rr'd post? Nothing worth reporting.

Joy? :-S

Ah.... I've just spotted she who loves to report me LOL

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 12 Apr 2021 17:02

Without getting into the who said what argument I have to admit that I have wondered why younger people have these problems and was it lifestyle, medication etc.

But I have also wondered if it is HOW the jab is given. Early on I am sure I saw a picture of someone having been given the jab and the needle wasleft hanging in the arm. Somewhere overseas I think.

I've no idea where I saw it but felt that no vaccination of any sort ought not to be given that way.

Caroline

Caroline Report 12 Apr 2021 17:04

It is unproven but there is a lot of logic to it...that said..as already noted I think you're 50 times more likely to die from Covid than have a blood clot from a vaccine.

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 12 Apr 2021 18:10

We can wonder for ever, the people in the know don’t have all the answers...they have changed the goal posts that many times.

Not heard that one Caroline...but I would presume that would relate (if true) to the elder population?

Names....do we know for sure it is affecting only the younger people, why are the age restrictions so widely different in other countries now regarding the vaccine.
How many cases of adverse reactions have gone unreported for various reasons.

All the questions aimed at Boris and his briefing team are vetted..people need to know what the hell is going on!



JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 18:23

I have no idea who reported Island. I have never reported anyone on the boards.

Shirley, I posted initially because I wondered whether anyone else had been thinking about any possible causes regarding deaths in younger people who had received the covid jab.

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 18:28

As you have wondered too, names, I guess we're not the only ones.

A needle left in the arm is shocking and I'd agree with you there names.

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 12 Apr 2021 18:32

Joy..I think lots of people must be asking questions regarding the current situation with AZ and the other Vaccines.

I know several people who are now not having their second dose...so yes it is being talked about in many households....people need to be able to make an informed choice.
:-)

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 12 Apr 2021 18:36

Too late for us, Ann, as we had our second jab on Saturday - but we ain't spring chickens so never gave a though to not having it.