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rosepetals Report 18 Jan 2013 20:15

I'm looking for Moya Hansen/Bryant born 1938 in south shields .born to Annie Hansen nee Garton and Charles Hansen
Moya married Douglas Chapman 1954 in south shields

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 18 Jan 2013 21:57

Not seeing any children born to them. She was very young so you have to wonder if the marriage lasted.



patchem Report 18 Jan 2013 23:37

Where does the name Bryant come from?

Have you got the actual marriage certificate?


brummiejan Report 18 Jan 2013 23:47

There are Chapman/Bryant births in South Shields after 1954, if that is relevant??
They can be found on Freebmd.
The only Chapman/Bryant marriage in the area is the one you have, as far as I can tell, so possibly their children?


patchem Report 18 Jan 2013 23:56

Could this be Douglas's death?
Douglas Chapman
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1936
Date of Registration: May 2000
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Register Number: A66F
District and Subdistrict: 0571A
Entry number: 291


Reggie Report 19 Jan 2013 12:42

Surely any children born to Moya should have the MMN Hansen


Reggie Report 19 Jan 2013 12:54


Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)
Bryant John Hansen S.Shields 10a 1353
Hansen Annie Bryant S. Shields 10a 1353

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)

Garton Annie Hansen S.Shields 10a 1619
Hansen Charles Carton S. Shields 10a 1619


rosepetals Report 19 Jan 2013 14:32

im so sorry ive just found this box :-(


patchem Report 19 Jan 2013 14:45

Do you know when Annie or Charles Hansen or John Bryant died?

From the marriage certificates that you have got, what are the names of the Fathers?

I think you also need to get the certificates for the weddings Reggie has found.

Was your Mother the informant on your Father's death certificate?


Flip Report 19 Jan 2013 15:57

You should have kept this to together:

Will PM rosepetals to tell her how to get back to her posts


Flip Report 19 Jan 2013 16:15

I would think she was "known" under 2 different names, she may have lived with someone but not been married? So she was born Hanson, but may have assumed the name Bryant - hence the marriage index. It often happens, and is a common occurrence.


patchem Report 19 Jan 2013 16:34

There is a possible marriage for Moya Chapman (no middle initial) in Burnley in 1978.
(I can see 3 births for Moya Chapman, all with a middle initial, so partially ruled these out)
The marriage does not give alternate surnames for her, however.
Will pm it.
She then can be found in - but it could be a different Moya, not your Mother.


patchem Report 19 Jan 2013 16:43

Sorry, just realised, why this was 'familiar'

I hope this is the wrong Moya.

The obituary claims she was born as Chapman, but unfortunately no ages given.


rosepetals Report 19 Jan 2013 18:02

thank you for all your messages ,,,, :-)
answers to some questions ,,annies death is 1974 and charles 1939 these are my grandparents ,,john i dont know ,,father died 2000 whome i didnt know so i dont know who signed for his death ,everything i know i was told a few months ago ,but at the age of 13 i was told i was only fostered and had 3 brothers , i went to see 2 of them and that was 43 years ago and they the two ive found ,all douglas chapman as father but mother used 2 names for us as maiden ,,i do know mothers father died when she was 1 but where bryant came from i dont know as she was wed at 16 so she wasnt wed previous to that ,but i do know her eldest sister annie wed a bryant,
thank you again ,,,,,,sandra

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jan 2013 19:16

Were you all fostered? Were there any adoptions because the adoption papers might reveal more about your mother.

Perhaps Moya was brought up by her eldest sister and assumed the surname Bryant?



patchem Report 19 Jan 2013 20:19

You have put that Charles died in 1939.
This is the only death that I can see, do you know if it is the correct one?
Charles A Hansen
Birth Date: abt 1905
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 289

(Or could he have been registered as Hanson?)

No death for 'Annie Hansen' in 1974.
Do you know where?


rosepetals Report 19 Jan 2013 20:44

none of us where adopted ,,,,myself and my 2 youngest were put in a childrens home , i was about 4 , where as the eldest he was 6 and he went to live with father and his grandmother chapman , was told father didnt have to pack in work cos child was at school ,, i believe mother had another child late 1960 but it died early 1961,this is maybe when parents split up ,, i was fostered out at nealy 5 and the 2 boys together just after that ,they were there about 10 years ? i was with mine for 18 years so they finished their teen years in the childrens home ,


patchem Report 19 Jan 2013 21:00

Child that died?
Gary Chapman
Birth Date: abt 1961
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1961
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 1082

Gary Chapman
Mother's Maiden Surname: Brant (No, it is Bryant on index)
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1960
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1308


rosepetals Report 19 Jan 2013 21:35

hi patchen
i think i have the right date for my grandfather charles hansen but he was born in russia in 1886 and was a sailor and came to a boarding house in south shields and on the 1911 cencus he boarded at 398 south eldon street tyne dock he was 22 years of age and wed grandmother 2 years later annie garton born 1896 and she died 1974 i think it was south shields im not sure ,ill have to check through all my papers ,


rosepetals Report 19 Jan 2013 21:39

yes thats right he would of been the baby brother born late 1960 and died early 1961 , thank you for the info numbers ,,