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the parents of Bertie ?? 1911




BALDWIN, Henry Head Married M 27 1884 Fish Fryer London Islington
BALDWIN, Hettie Wife Married5 years F 28 1883 London Kingsland
WETHERELL, John Son M 12 1899 London Walthamstow
BALDWIN, Richard Son M 2 1909 London Hackney
BECKETT, Rose Sister Single F 21 1890 Packer Factory London Kingsland
number: RG14 Piece: 1165 Reference: RG14PN1165 RG78PN38 RD11 SD5 ED26 SN407 Registration District: Hackney Sub District: South East Hackney Enumeration District: 26 Parish: St John At Hackney Address: 20 Anderson Road Homerton N E County: London refine search back to 1911 census search results1911 address search


the marriage

June 25- 1906 Hackney

Henry Baldwin 23y Fish----- father Henry Baldwin -- Builder
Henrietta Wetherall 24 wd ------------father Horace Beckett -- Farrier

witn. Elizabeth Kerridge and Ellen Fryer

other children Baldwin / Beckett born Hackney

Henry 1911 - Henrietta I 1913 - William G 1915 - Stanley F 1921 and Bertie 1923


Mavis

hi big hug to you Shirley for this last information, has been a really big help xx I cnt thank you enough <3 <3

and thank you to you as well mavis <3 <3

You are welcome :-D ;-)

Please to help ;-

Mavis

IS THERE ANY PLACE I CAN GET TO FIND OUT WHAT MY NAN IVY PASSED AWAY FROM. DOES ANYONE NO X

You would need to purchase the death cert to find those details

Is this her death?


Deaths Sep 1970 (99%)

BALDWIN Ivy 25Ja1922 Hackney 5b 1067

Yes that is her death bless her xx

This is her birth so I don't think that info Shirley has given you is anything to do with Ivy


Births Mar 1922 (>99%)

Mussett Ivy Lankston Hackney 1b 1036

Oooo ok, is there any parents for her !!! I will have to change my tree
Thank you xx

I cannot see a marriage between Mussett and Lankston but as it was just after WW1 her mother may have been married before?

It does seem strange that your father said there was a sister...but your grandmother was having children up until 1962 which would have made her 55 by then

Maybe they were cousins not sisters? there does not look to be any siblings under Mussett/Lankston

Yes her sisters name was violet an she did Marry Harry shaw
They were very close and spent a lot of time together,

That is such shame there are no records

Will be looking in to this !!!!!

Now looks like I have to change my tree records after hours and hours of time
Doing this !!!!

BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD

My dad's birth certificate is!!!

Richard h Baldwin
Born 1952 in hackney
Mothers maiden mussett
My Nan's name was ivy mussett
Ivy married bertie Baldwin
I no ivy had a sister named violet mussett
Violet mussett married Harry shaw
When ivy mussett passed away in 1970
Bertie Baldwin remarried in 1970 to Sheila little

My dad's brothers and sisters are

Margaret r Baldwin 1944 hackney married a worth
Robert w Baldwin 1947 hackney married Barbara Jackson
Carol a Baldwin 1950 hackney married Kenneth ashdown
Robin l Baldwin 1962 hackney - not shore of his were abouts was in London

If I have the right marriage for Violet - it was in 1933, and there is a birth for Violet mussett in 1913, with mmn King.

Alfred Richard Mussett married Charlotte Rose King in 1911 - in 1923 they were on the ERs in Hackney at 53 Nisbet Street. I had been looking at that couple to see if Charlotte had been married previously.

Have found a Charlotte Rose Lankston, but it can't be her as she married in 1913

It is better to apply for the birth and marriage and death certificates, when found, so that you do not have to change your tree, or trace completely the wrong people.

The birth certificates will give the middle names if you do not know them, the correct birth date and parents' names, etc etc. If the mother has married twice, this information is rather useful.

This is particularly relevant if you are dealing with common names, but also is needed for your family.

You have said there are no records - there are, you need to buy anything relevant for more information.

Added:
Just realised this thread started in 2013, did you buy the certificates between then and now?

Thank you flip

It was in 1933 that violet married Harry shaw

Like Pat says, I think you need some certificates.

Looking at Alfred Richard/Charlotte Rose, they are on 1911 census together - she states born Clapham in 1889 - but the only birth for a Charlotte Rose King that I can find was St Saviour in 1891 - and she is on 1901/11 census, so not the same person.

Do you remember if your gran had any other siblings - it's just Alfred's military record gives a number of children:

Lillian Rose (23/5/1909) - registered as King, but married as Mussett
Winnie Elizabeth (18/8/1911)
Voilet Louise (31/7/13)
Thomas Henry (28/11/1917)
And added was Bob (20/1/1920)

mmn King on all these registratons.

My nan has a sister violet !!!! This is the only one I hear my dad talk about
Was his mum and aunt and his dad

I don't know what you expect us to do if you are not prepared to buy any certs.

Didn't you think it was strange that your grandfather was born 1923 and you were then given details of his wife being born 1907 and you knew she had children as late as 1962?