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FMP STILL not working properly..................so perhaps someone with Ancestry would be kind enough to find Leonard etc in 1911 and post the info

You said, Lesley, that you couldn't find any siblings for Ethel's parents, yet you referred to contact with her cousin: one of that person's parents must have been a sibling of one of Ethel's.

Did she really remain a widow for about 64 years.?

At last able to post the census........

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
67 Bury Street Darwen, Darwen, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
John Almond Head Married Male 39 1872 Lanc Darwen Shop Assistant Transcription
Margaret Almond Wife Married Female 41 1870 Lanc Darwen - Transcription
John Almond Son Single Male 17 1894 Lanc Darwen General Labourer Transcription
Frank Almond Son Single Male 15 1896 Lanc Darwen Weaver Cotton Transcription
James Almond Son - Male 13 1898 Lanc Darwen Warehouse Cotton Mill Transcription
Sydney Almond Son - Male 10 1901 Lanc Darwen School Transcription
Leonard Almond Son - Male 8 1903 Lanc Darwen School Transcription
Helena Almond Daughter - Female 3 1908 Lanc Darwen - Transcription
Elizabeth Salisbury Boarder Single Female 38 1873 Lanc Darwen Weaver Cotton

Marriage: 11 Sep 1869 Holy Trinity (Now St Peter), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
John Salisbury - 23, Weaver, Bachelor, Lower Cross St
Sarah Ann Almond - 22, Weaver, Spinster, Reservoir St
Groom's Father: Robert Salisbury, Coachman
Bride's Father: James Almond, Collier
Witness: Thomas Walsh; Martha Almond
Married by Banns by: Robert Mayall Vicar
Register: Marriages 1863 - 1872, Page 160, Entry 319
Source: LDS Film 1526204
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Baptism: 12 Jan 1870 St Peter (formerly Holy Trinity), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Margaret Salisbury - [Child] of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 24 Oct 1869
Abode: Reservoir Street
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: R. Mayall, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1852 - 1873, Page 337, Entry 2694
Source: LDS Film 1526204

Baptism: 4 Jun 1871 St Peter (formerly Holy Trinity), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Rachel Salisbury - [Child] of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 29 Apr 1871
Abode: Runcorn St.
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Wm. Geo. Procter
Register: Baptisms 1852 - 1873, Page 368, Entry 2939
Source: LDS Film 1526204


Baptism: 16 Feb 1873 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Salisbury - dau of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 21 Jan 1873
Abode: Resivoir St
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: A F Studley Curate
Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1877, Page 4, Entry 27
Source: LDS Film 1526204


Baptism: 11 Oct 1874 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
James Salisbury - son of John Salisbury & Sarah Anne
Born: 10 Aug 1874
Abode: Bk Lane
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: R Maynall Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1877, Page 43, Entry 344
Source: LDS Film 1526204

Baptism: 15 Apr 1877 Holy Trinity, Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Robert Salisbury - son of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 5 May 1876
Abode: 10, Bonny St
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: Joseph Miller
Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1877, Page 99, Entry 790
Source: LDS Film 1526204


Baptism: 4 Aug 1878 Holy Trinity (now St Peter), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Ellen Salisbury - dau of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 27 Apr 1878
Abode: Bonny St
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: R. Mayall
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 28, Entry 222
Source: LDS Film 1526204

Baptism: 3 Jul 1881 Holy Trinity (now St Peter), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Mary Jane Salisbury - dau of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 30 Mar 1881
Abode: 14 Bonny St
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: F. K. Peacock
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1890, Page 94, Entry 751
Source: LDS Film 1526204

Baptism: 4 Feb 1894 Holy Trinity (now St Peter), Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
William Thomas Salisbury - son of John Salisbury & Sarah Ann
Born: 22 Jun 1883
Abode: 34 Hannah St
Baptised by: Thomas F. Hardy
Register: 1890 - 1900, Page 92, Entry 730
Source: LDS Film 1526024

Jaqueline
Sorry I didn't reply sooner, and had problems sending replies
Thank you so much for all this information. It really is very kind of you to search for all of this. Thank you so much

Kay
Yes she really did remain a widow for all those years. Her cousin told me that Ethel still never married again when she last saw her in the 1990's.

Jacqueline
I am so very grateful to you for sending me the details on the census, and all these Baptism records you sent me too. I can't thank you enough. You really have done lot of searches. Many many thanks to you

Rose
Apparently Ethel and husband Archibold moved to Scotland for a while, but Archibold died there so I have been told. Ethel then moved back to Lancashire. I don't have a death year for him either

When I first started searching I found a birth record for what I thought was Ethel's son, Surname Edgar and Mother's maiden name was Almond. The cousin insists Ethel had no children as she was only married for two years

Jacqueline and Rose. I am sure there was a son. As you said the record shows a son born the year after Ethel married. I am going to follow this through even though the cousin says there were no children. I know she saw Ethel and kept in contact until the 1990's, and insists there were no children,

Apparently Ethel's husband Archibold was born in Scotland. Not found a birth

Jacqueline I will pm you a message telling you the cousins name

Message won't send to you Jacqueline

Jacqueline. This cousin's maiden name is Charnock. Her father was a brother of Ethel Charnock, who was Ethel Edgar's Mother.

Do you need info about Ethel's mother?

Or have you got all that you need for her?

PM system is up the creek.......

I don't have the details of Ethel's Mother's birth, there are a few possibilities, not certain where she was born really. Thank you, I don't have any information about her really, other than this cousin was quite close to her.
I also found another birth for Leonard Almond, born in 1907 Blackburn.

Very frustrating when you find a few possible birth's, but I have printed out all the information that you found on Leonard Almond.

If I can just get some tree connections on Ancestry to this family Charnock and Almond, then I may find someone who is connected to this family.

You are so helpful to me Jacqueline. Thank you

Jacqueline
My message has now been sent to you

I am going to contact this cousin again and ask her a few questions.She may know when Ethel's parent's were born and hopefully a few more things. If I can get back a bit through the tree with the names you have given me, then I can start going forward again and looking for marriages etc. Hopefully eventually I may find some relatives that are living, either from Ethel's Mother's side of family or her Father's side of family

To make accurate progress, you will probably have to get a copy of the Almond/Charnock marriage cert

The info I posted about Leonard could be the wrong one.

This is the 1907 birth showing MMN

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ALMOND Leonard Darwen Blackburn WARD D/136/40

and here he is in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10 Hill Houses Darwen, Darwen, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Alfred Almond Head Married Male 33 1878 Lanc Darwen Cotton Weaver Transcription
Rebecca Almond Wife Married Female 33 1878 Lanc Oswaldtwistle Cotton Weaver Transcription
Leonard Almond Son Son Male 3 1908 Lanc Darwen - Transcription


What was the first name of the cousin's father? (Charnock) and when was he born?

Yes, I totally agree with you about getting the marriage certificate, It has to be the only way to find out for certain

Oh thank you very much again for finding this information on Leonard Almond, this is really helpful too. You have given me so much information and I really am so grateful Jacqueline for using your time to help me.

I've replied to your PM.

There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about births and their registrations.....!

When you speak to Janet, ask her for her father's name and birth year/birthplace.

I am afraid I don't know the first name of the cousin's father, but I am asking her today. I have been concentrating so much on looking at Electoral Rolls and Care homes and death records for Ethel, that now I need to do this tree, to find any relatives