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Unknown Report 17 Nov 2016 22:10

I have very little information on my Great Grandfather Mr. Angold his christian name could be Fredrick, Leonard, Bernard as these were his Grandsons He had a furniture business in the Hackney Road London. He left my Grandmother in the 1800. Unable to even find a death or marriage certificate to Emeline I believe her single name was Moffat They had one child Emmaline Eleanor Mary Angold later Hambling.
My grandfather's name was Isaac George Hambling I have been unable to find his birth certificate. found marriage to Emaline and then his death certificate

Thanks in advance for any information

Yvonne Williams

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2016 22:36

Some idea of years would help

Often there aren't any births certs pre 1875 Because it wasn't compulsory to reg a birth before then

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:04

Welcome to the boards Yvonne

For our info - a starting point with dates

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) EMELINE ELEANOR M
Last name ANGOLD
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1900
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ EMELINE ELEANOR M ANGOLD married one of these people
ISAAC GEORGE HAMBLING, CHARLES FREDERICK GIBBONS
District HACKNEY
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 1010
Record set

the marriage certificate should name Isaac's Father and give his occupation which might help find him/the family

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:13

???
Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
ANGOLD, EMMELINE ELEANOR GARDNER Order
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 292 Order

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:19

Your opening post is a bit confusing - am I reading correctly that Emeline Eleanor M Angold's mother is also Emeline. If so, is this her?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) EMMELINE
Last name ANGOLD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1849
Age 67
Death quarter 2
Death year 1916
District ISLINGTON
County London
Volume 1B
Page 259

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:21

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN HENRY
Last name ANGOLD
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1867
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN HENRY ANGOLD married one of these people
MARIA WARD, EMMELINE GARDNER
District BETHNAL GREEN
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 799

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:27

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
44 Lockhurst Street, St John At Hackney, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George Hambling Head Married Male Eningers Fitter 38 1873 London St Lukes
Emmeline Hambling Wife Married Female - 40 1871 -
Emmeline Hambling D - Female - 10 1901 Bethnal Green Clapton Park
Annie Hambling Daughter - Male - 8 1903 Homerton
Frederick Hambling Son - Male - 6 1905 Clapton Park
Leonard Hambling Son - Male - 4 1907 Clapton Park
May Helen Hambling Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Clapton Park
Burnard Hambling Son - Male - 0 1911 Clapton Park

Married 11 years 6 children born and still alive

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:28

1939 Register

Hambling Household (5 People)
44 Lockhurst Street , Hackney, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
George I Hambling 16 Sep 1873 Male Engineer Fitter Widowed 80 1
Emmeline A Hambling 30 Apr 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 80 2
Annie E Hambling 23 Nov 1902 Female Folding Box Stripper Heavy Worker Single 80 3
Kenneth Hambling 28 Feb 1875 Male Instrument Maker Aer? Single 80 4
Theresa M Drummond 02 Aug 1913 Female Milliner Single 80 5

Believe Kenneth born 1915 and Theresa may be 1912. She is formerly Hambling, change of name appears to have been added 13.4.1943

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:32

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Emeline may have knocked a year or so off her birth year !
159, Glenarm Road, Hackney, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Smith Head Married Male 32 1869 Carpet Warehouse Asst Cranbrook, Kent, England
Charlotte Smith Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Aston, Warwickshire, England
Dorothy Smith Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - London, Middlesex, England
Willm Leipnick Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Carpenter Norfolk, England
George Hambling Lodger Married Male 26 1875 Engine Fitter Islington, Middlesex, England
Emiline Hambling Lodger Married Female 27 1874 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:37

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) EMELINE E M
Last name HAMBLING
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1871
Age 47
Death quarter 1
Death year 1918
District HACKNEY
County London
Volume 1B
Page 630
Country

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:40

??England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) EMMALINE
Last name GARDNER
Birth year 1848
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Country England
Volume 2
Page 55

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:52

If this is emeline Snr then she would appear to have been widowed between 1891 and 1901 unless her status is for appearances sake

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Underwood Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emeline M Angold Head Married Female 42 1849 Fancy Box Maker Middlesex, England

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Block a Guinness Buildings, 15, St Luke, Holborn, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emmaline Angold Head Widow Female 52 1849 Box Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
103 Guinness Trust Buildings Lever St Finsbury E C, St Luke, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Emeline Angold Head Widow Female Cardboard Box Maker 62 1849 London Bethnal Green

Mistakenly completed and crossed out - married 43 years with 3 children born 2 of whom have died

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:01

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Union Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Gardner Head Married Male 56 1805 Tailor Hackney, Middlesex, England
Ellen Gardner Wife Married Female 33 1828 Shoe Binder Hoxton, Middlesex, England
Emiline Gardner Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Book Binder Middlesex, England
Charles B Gardner Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Hoxton, Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:06

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ANGOLD, JOHN HENRY CRICK
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 17

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Which would make this a possible marriage for the parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Angold John Bethnal Green 2 10
Crick Jane Bethnal Green 2 10
Davis Susanna Bethnal Gn 2 10
Gabriel Ann Bethnal Green 2 10
Gilbert Josiah Bethnal Grn 2 10
Gogay Hannah Bethnal Green 2 10
Morren Amelia Bethnal Gn 2 10
Powell William John Bethnal Gn 2 10
Taylor Henry Bethnal Gn 2 10

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But unfortunately this death ?

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
ANGOLD, JANE 29 Order
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 389

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:08

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Temple Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Angold Head Married Male 26 1825 Joiner Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Ellenor Angold Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John H Y Angold Son - Male 4 1847 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Sarah Chyne Visitor Widow Female 58 1793 Weaveress Hand Loom Mile End, Middlesex, England
William MacKenzie Lodger Head Married Male 19 1832 Wood Letter Cutter Bromley, Middlesex, England
Mary MacKenzie Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England

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? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Note his Mother's name Eleanor
13, West Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Angold Head Married Male 35 1826 Cabinet Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Elanor Angold Wife Married Female 39 1822 Sil Weaveress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John Angold Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
George Angold Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Thomas Angold Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

(George's mother's maiden name shows as Latham on the GRO index)

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:11

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name ANGOLD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1850
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN ANGOLD married one of these people
HARRIET LOVELL, ELEANOR LATHAM, JANE LOW, ANN NIALL

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:11

??England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN H
Last name ANGOLD
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1847
Age 84
Death quarter 4
Death year 1931
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Volume 1C
Page 133

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:30

Did John Henry "take up" with this lady. Not seeing a marriage to fit

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Suffolk Road, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John H Angold Head Married Male 44 1847 Cabinet Maker Middlesex, England
Alvena Angold Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Middlesex, England
William H Angold Son - Male 2 1889 - Middlesex, England
Isabel Angold Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Middlesex, England
Thomas Angold Son - Male 0 1891 - Middlesex, England

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32, Emma Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John H Angold Head Married Male 53 1848 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alvina Angold Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Isabella Angold Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Brushmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
William H Angold Son Single Male 13 1888 Paper Stainer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Rose Angold Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John Angold Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Jane Angold Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
74 Temple Street Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Henry Angold Head Married Male Cabinet Maker 63 1848 B G London Bethnal Green
Alvina Pelena Angold - Married Female - 48 1863 London Haggerston
William Angold - Single Male Trimmer 23 1888 London B G Bethnal Green
Isabel Angold - Single Female Servant 24 1887 London Haggerston
John Angold - Single Male Fitter 19 1892 London B G Bethnal Green
Jane Angold - Single Female Brush Cleaner 16 1895 London B G Bethnal Green

Married 25 years 6 children born to marriage, 5 still living

It probably reads Alvena Selena

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:32

Alvina died 1911

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ALVINA S
Last name ANGOLD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1863
Age 48
Death quarter 4
Death year 1911
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Volume 1C
Page 159

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:35

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

Shoreditch RD covers Haggerston where Alvena is said to have been born as per census

First name(s) ALVINIA SELINA
Last name RITTER
Birth year 1862
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District SHOREDITCH
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 111

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
RITTER, ALVINIA SELINA FREYHOFER Order
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 111