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susan grace

susan grace Report 4 Mar 2017 15:21

getting fed up have been using genes reunited without success, so here goes if anyone thinks there maybe a chance of knowing or being related to my very late father john, who has his ashes in the crocus lawns at hoop lane golders green cemetery under F for fitzgerald. then contact me through facebook or email me kind regards susan green (nee fitzgerald )

susan grace

susan grace Report 4 Mar 2017 15:28

time starts running out and we all get a little older my fathers family were of irish decent, his brother martin and wife grace were at my parents john and beryl fitzgeralds home at beechcroft avenue in golders green at the time of my fathers sudden passing massive heart attack aged 27 it has taken me the last few years to look for living relatives. just a void i need to fill i would love to meet you and talk about these times so until then i will wait thanks all.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Mar 2017 16:03

Susan - despite your long membership, you may not have realised that its against the sites T&C to post your contact details on an open board. Could you please edit your opening post to remove your email address?

Anyone related to you can still contact you privately by clicking on your name & sending you a personal message using the GR system. Even if you allow your subs to lapse, GR will still notify you as long as your linked email address is up to date.

If you'd like the GR community to help you with your research and even to suggest contaxt details of living relatives, please post details of your father & his brother. The year and place of birth would be a good place to start.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Mar 2017 16:14

There doesn't seem to be a death for a 27 year old John Joseph Fitzgerald on the 1916-2007 GRO index. There's over 1,400 if his death was registered as John J Fitzgerald.

It would help if you entered what details that you do have for your father, on your tree. That's where most new researchers would start looking to find relatives.


patchem Report 4 Mar 2017 16:43

Marriage 1954 at Pancras? Mother born 1935?
John born 1932, died Hendon 1960?


patchem Report 4 Mar 2017 16:59

Do you know if either of these are your Father, or was he born in Ireland?

John J Fitzgerald
BIRTH: Mar 1933 - Poplar, Greater London

John J Fitzgerald
BIRTH: Dec 1932 - Marylebone, London


patchem Report 4 Mar 2017 17:04

Martin was born in 1937 in Susan's tree.


patchem Report 4 Mar 2017 17:14

Have you found the family in the 1939 census, just for confirmation of Martin's age?


Christine Report 4 Mar 2017 17:56

Possible marriage of brother Martin to Grace in 1953, also at Paddington.


patchem Report 4 Mar 2017 18:20

Possible, but very young.


Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Mar 2017 09:57


Deaths Dec 1960

FITZGERALD John J 28 Hendon 5e 544

For Ref :


patchem Report 5 Mar 2017 11:08

So the missing you has the brother as Martin P Fitzgerald.

Martin P and Grace D on 1960 ER, and in Brent in 1965.


patchem Report 5 Mar 2017 11:16

Grace and Martin are showing on the ER in 1953 in Carlton, so he must have been born before 1932?


patchem Report 5 Mar 2017 12:19

Grace Dorothy Fitzgerald
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1932
Date of Registration: Apr 1984
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 1541

Fits with a possible birth for Grace D Davies.


patchem Report 5 Mar 2017 12:32

As Martin P does not show on the ER until 1953, then he is very likely born around 1932, or was not living in London before then.

If we cannot see him in 1939 census, then still possibly alive, or died relatively recently, or not in the country?

There are several Fitzgerald/Davies births in London, with one or two being possible children, but not immediately after that marriage date.


patchem Report 7 Apr 2017 06:59

Susan has sent me a pm saying that her Father was born in London to Irish parents, and had other siblings besides Martin.


patchem Report 7 Apr 2017 18:16


Have you got your Father's birth certificate for information about his parents?


AustinQ Report 8 Apr 2017 08:48

Martin's death?

First name(s) MARTIN
Gender Male
Birth date 14 September 1930
Death quarter 4
Death year 1988
District Brent
Register number 1288
County Middlesex
Volume 11 Page 656

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar

Name: Martin Patrick Fitzgerald
Death Date: 7 Dec 1988
Death Place: North Wembley Middx
Probate Date: 3 Mar 1989
Registry: Winchester

FITZGERALD- Martin Patrick of 1 Hutchenson Terr Clarendon Gardens North Wembley Middx died 7 December 1988 Probate Winchester 3 March Not exceeding £70000


AustinQ Report 8 Apr 2017 09:04

Possibly Martin's birth (In Ireland):

First name(s) Martin
Last name Fitzgerald
Registration year 1930
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1930
Registration district Kilkenny
Volume 3 Page 297
Mother's last name (original) Phelan
County Kilkenny
Country Ireland

John's birth:

First name(s) JOHN J
Birth year 1932
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name Phelan
District Marylebone
County London
Volume 1A Page 659

Other possible siblings:
Johanna 1934
Michael 1936


AustinQ Report 8 Apr 2017 09:35

This is just a possible- needs a little more looking into, but I'll post just in case. I was wondering if the boys were evacuated elsewhere in 1939 or possibly in Ireland?- but saw this:

Party 2 Name Ellen PHELAN
Date of Event 16 June 1925
SR District/Reg Area Kilkenny

The transcription reveals more on the 1939 register than is actually available to view- Joan is a closed record on the original:

Fitzgerald Household 49 Auckland House , Hammersmith, London, England

James Fitzgerald 20 Jan 1901 Male Road Construction Laboure Married
Ellen O'sullivan (Fitzgerald) 15 Jan 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Dut Married
Joan Fitzgerald (Williams) 16 Oct 1934 Female Usa Single

The 1939 register shows that Ellen married again:

Marriages Jun 1946
Fitzgerald Ellen O'Sullivan Paddington 1a 185
O'Sullivan Cornelius Fitzgerald Paddington 1a 185

It also shows that Joan married to a Mr Williams:

Possible marriage:

Marriages Mar 1952
Fitzgerald Johanna Williams Pancras 5d 1083
Williams Bertram C Fitzgerald Pancras 5d 1083

Johanna and Bertram are on the historical London electoral registers- Johanna is listed as Joan