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David Alexander Cuthbert

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ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 22 Oct 2017 20:49

I am trying to find any living relatives of my father, David Alexander Cuthbert, born 1949. His mother was Beryl Cuthbert (Russell) Born 1907 and died 1970, his father was also David Alexander Cuthbert, not sure of the birth date or date of death. i think my father had two sisters, I think their names were Heather and Margaret Crow, and a brother but not sure his name. Unfortunately I don't have much info to go on as my father never really spoke about his family and he passed away last year.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Oct 2017 21:05

I can't find your father's birth on FreeBMD nor the marriage of David Cuthbert & Beryl Russell. Do you have his birth certificate?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Oct 2017 21:16

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
RUSSELL Beryl Stoke T. 6b 220

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Oct 2017 21:20


Not seeing the marriage had she been married before !!

Marriages Dec 1931
Langton Leslie H Russell Stoke T. 6b 381
Russell Beryl Langton Stoke T. 6b 381

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Oct 2017 21:25

Not seeing the death for Beryl

Is this family in the UK

Where does the surname Crow fit in

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Oct 2017 21:32

Having looked in members trees is it your tree that has him born in
Vereeniging, Gauteng...

If so then those records won't be online as it's South Africa

Edit there are a few records on Ancestry

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2017 22:26

Beryl Cuthbert
in the Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Name: Beryl Cuthbert
Death Year: 1970
Death Country: South Africa
Title: Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria)
Source: National Archives, Pretoria
Reference Number: 3892/70

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2017 22:28

David Alexander Cuthbert
in the Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Name: David Alexander Cuthbert
Death Year: 1959
Death Country: South Africa
Title: Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria)
Source: National Archives, Pretoria
Reference Number: 7795/59

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Oct 2017 23:42

Claire, you really should have mentioned that the records that you were looking for were in South Africa!

ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 23 Oct 2017 11:44

Thanks for the info. Not all the records are from South Africa, Only my father was born in South Africa, but his sisters as far as I know were born in the UK. My grandmother was also born in the UK but I am not sure where my grandfather was born which is why I didn't mention it. I am trying to find any living ancestors from my family and I am not even sure where they would be based.

Beryl was married to Colin Crow first in the UK and then married David Alexander Cuthbert in South Africa

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 12:38

Marriages Mar 1934 (>99%)
Crow Colin A Russell Westminster 1a 835
Russell Beryl Crow Westminster 1a 835

I don't see the births of Heather or Margaret 1934-60 in England/Wales.

The only Crow /Russell births are a Rosemary A in Ecclesall Bierlow , and a Hilary E in Sheffield.

Were Heather and Margaret also born in South Africa?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 12:45

Travelling with the above Rosemary and Hilary:

Mrs Beryl Crow
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs Beryl Crow
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 12 Aug 1939
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Durban, South Africa
Ship Name: Nestor
Shipping line: Blue Funnel Line
Official Number: 135509
Master: J J Power


Address: 10 Meadow Bank Avenue, Sheffield 7

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 12:51

Possibly Rosemary with a younger sister Elizabeth (9), travelling from Natal to 2 Manchester Road, Sheffield.


Rosemary Crow
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Rosemary Crow
Birth Date: abt 1935
Age: 13
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1948
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Durban Castle
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 166617

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 14:15

Death of an earlier Elizabeth:

Elizabeth Joan Crow
in the Cape Province, South Africa, Civil Deaths, 1895-1972
Name: Elizabeth Joan Crow
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Birth Year: 1938
Residence Place: 165 Sir Lowry Road Cape Town
Death Date: 14 Sep 1938
Death Place: Cape Town, Cape Province, South Africa
FHL Film Number: 4532617


Age 4 months
Birthplace : Cape Provinces
Mother: Beryl Crow (present at death)
Mixed race
Burial: Maitland
Cause of death: gastroenteritis. (4 weeks)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 14:27

Possible marriage and death of Hilary E - if she returned to UK at some point ???
I don't see the birth of any other Hilary E Crow. Beryl's daughter was born 3rd qr 1938, so the DOB given matches that.

Marriages Jun 1962 (>99%)
CROW Hilary E Gregory Leeds 2c 427


Hilary Elizabeth Gregory
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Hilary Elizabeth Gregory
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1938
Registration Date: May 2003
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: B21C
District and Subdistrict: 092/1B
Entry Number: 59


Three probable daughters of the marriage, all born Leeds - 1967, 1968, 1970


EDIT:

The 1968 child died in infancy:

Sonia Gregory
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sonia Gregory
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1968
Registration Date: Mar 1968
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 473

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 14:34

The 1970 daughter probably married a Henson in Leeds, 1997.

On Leeds ER in 2002.

Two possible sons, born Leeds, 1999 and 2003.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2017 15:20

Have PM'd Claire with details up to 2002, at least.

Don't see the Henson family definitely after that, nor in the BT Phonebook online in Yorkshire

EDIT:

The husband is listed 2010-17 in Leeds, with his brother Anthony. His parents also listed at the same address, though his mother Denise died 2002.
I don't have credits to see the full address.
The wife not listed with him, but maybe she's opted out of the public ER.

ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 25 Oct 2017 09:52

I would like to see if I can find any information on Frances Crow d.o.b 21/12/1945 born in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa and was given up for adoption. She was adopted by Eric Murrell Ware and Ivy Gladys (Elms) Ware and named Susan Gay Ware. She would have been my late father's sister.

ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 25 Oct 2017 10:01

I now have the dob for my grandfather David Cuthbert. It is 3 June 1905. I don't know where he was born as the handwriting on the passport is terrible. He died in 1959 in South africa. Any help locating some info about him would be appreciated :-)

Nyx

Nyx Report 25 Oct 2017 12:14

?

from Scotlandspeople index

CUTHBERT
DAVID ALEXANDER
M ( male)
1905
402/ 13
Anstruther Easter