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Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 11:52

Hi there I am trying to find any living relatives of John G Dorman born 1913 in Wandsworth London. Mothers maiden name was Price.
Many thanks


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 12:17

Poss for 1939

Dorman Household (2 People)
40 Auckland House , Hammersmith, London, England

John G Dorman 24 Oct 1913 Male Optical Asst Married 311 1
Isabella Dorman 04 May 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Dut Married 311 2

Check trees to see if anyone has him in.

Marriages Sep 1935 (>99%)

Dorman John G Lillie Hammersmith 1a 864
Lillie Isabella Dorman Hammersmith 1a 864

Not seeing any children to this marriage?


Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 13:40

lovely thank you so very much


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 15:45

This is just a possible? Given parents

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 678

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
94 Richmond Road Earls Court SW, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

Bert Harrison Dorman Lodger - Male 0 1911 Walsall -
Bert Dorman Lodger Married Male 46 1865 America Journalist
Daisy Dorman Wife Married Female 24 1887 Dudley -
Jessie Tebley Visitor Married Female 31 1880 Kensington -
Leopoleline Lmetawa Wife Married Female 23 1888 Austria Vienna Dressmaker
Maud Sulivan Daughter Single Female 3 1908 Kensington -
Mima Sulivan Wife Married Female 38 1873 Gt Yarmouth Dressmaker
Phyllis Sulivan Daughter Single Female 1 1910 Kensington -
Anthony Lmetawa Boarder Married Male 25 1886 Austria Vienna Waiter
Sarah Brewer Mother Widow Female 75 1836 Gt Yarmouth -


Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 17:43

Wow !!! I am trying to track down relatives of my gran...sadly passed....she was separated from 2 brothers when her mother left them. I now remember that my grand mum was called Daisy !! I could not remember the brothers names but found a John dorman whose mothers maiden name was this must be my grans family ....I want to trace relatives to see if any of them knew of my gran as she was sent away when she was very young. Also Walsall rings a bell .
Thank you !!!!


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 18:11

Just a possible for the son Bert?

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

Province New Brunswick
First name(s) Bert
Last name Dorman
Gender Male
Age 16
Birth year 1911
Occupation FARMING
Departure year 1927
Departure day 6
Departure month 1
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Saint John NB
Destination SAINT JOHN NB
Country Canada
Destination country Canada
Ship name Marloch
Ship official number 121216
Ship master's last name STEWART
Ship master's title CAPT
Ship destination port SAINT JOHN NB
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 14925
Ship registered tonnage 6473
Number of passengers 332
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, Canada, Americas

Last residence on there was given for Bert and a lot of the others listed as
C/O C.P R Lands Dept London.


Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 18:41

I believe that some f the family did it looks likely that was my grans brother.
Thank you so are so clever to know where to access everything !!!


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 19:09

I think it would be a good idea if you haven't got it to buy the birth cert for Frances, it may give a full name for Bert her father, he may have a middle initial that would be useful to know. I can find a Bert A Dorman, on 1901 census but he is a hotel manager from America??

First name(s) FRANCES B
Last name DORMAN
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Price
District Staines
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Page 13
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England


Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 19:48

Hi !! He was originally from America i believe.....i bit of a drinker and a gambler lol !!
Thank you !!


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 20:16

Event date 1/18/1927
Record set Canada, Home Children Immigration Records Index, 1869-1930
First name(s) Bert
Sex Male
Last name Dorman
Year 1927
Ship name Marloch
State -
Country Canada
Age 16
Place British Immigration and Colonial Association, Montreal, Quebec
Record source Library and Archives Canada
Microfilm T-14848
Record type Passenger Lists

and this from the Home Children Records

Item: Bert DORMAN (117613)
Given Name(s): Bert
Surname: DORMAN
Gender: M
Age: 16
Year of Arrival: 1927
Date of Departure: 1927-01-07
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Date of Arrival: 1927-01-18
Port of Arrival: Saint John
Destination: British Immigration and Colonial Association, Montreal, Quebec
Children travelling together: J27JC
Comments: Group of boys
Type of Records: Passenger Lists
Page Number: 60
Volume Number: 1
Microfilm Reel Number: T-14848
Reference: RG 76 C1c
Source: Library and Archives Canada
Database Item Number: 117613

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Apr 2018 21:36

There's an immigration record for Bert A Dorman.

Bert A. Dorman
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Name Bert A. Dorman
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 16 Sep 1908
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place East Hartford, America
Gender Male
Age 43
Marital Status Married
Nationality US Citizen
Birth Year 1865
Departure Port Queenstown
Ship Name Oceanic
Page Number 165
Affiliate Line Number 0015



Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 22:27

Not sure about the Bert A Dorman?

London and Provincial Entr'acte 25 March 1905

BERT A. DORMAN, THE AMERICAN MILLIONAIRE. Manager of the Cosmopolitan Sporting Club.
Dorman the Man who has about as much brains as an oyster ! Dorman would like to make the acquaintance of about a dozen young ladies with plenty of money and no home"

Obviously running boxing events and Vaudeville entertainments


Jeanine Report 11 Apr 2018 22:29

Gosh it looks like he was married before he arrived in Uk
What does i am not related to you and i am not your husbands first wife mean ????


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 22:31

March 7, 1907. Continental Notes. Writing from Aix-la-Chapelle, Germany, under the date March 4th, Mr. Bert A. Dorman says; There are several things which impress visitor after has been here three or four days. One is the remarkable number of students ...."

07 March 1907 - London and Provincial Entr'acte - London, London, England


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 22:45

This places him in Walsall so may be relevant?

Walsall Advertiser 13 November 1909

Mr Bert Dorman officiated as referree and MC at boxing competition


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 22:52

Lots of entries in the Sporting Life, re boxing comps, there are also some in US papers which I don't have access to.


Rambling Report 11 Apr 2018 23:17

EDIT No not this one Daisy Dolman here born Atcham ,It seems unlikely bit I'm just wondering about this marriage as I can't find them on 1911 census?

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)

Dolman Daisy L Atcham 6a 871
Dolman Herbert F Atcham 6a 871
Dorman Daisy L Atcham 6a 871
Dorman Herbert F Atcham 6a 871
Dorman Herbert P Atcham 6a 871


ErikaH Report 12 Apr 2018 14:59

GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 1201

GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in STAINES Volume 03A Page 13


ErikaH Report 12 Apr 2018 15:19


Name Bert A Dorman.......Married
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place St Anne Soho, London, Middlesex, England
County London, Middlesex
Civil Parish St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical Parish St Anne'S
Sub-District St Anne Soho
Registration District Westminster
Residence Note Leicester Square
Gender Male
Age 36
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Birth Year (Estimated) 1865
Birthplace America
Schedule Type 62
Page Number 15


ErikaH Report 12 Apr 2018 15:23

In 1911, Daisy claims to have been married for 3 years.