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John Stobie or John Higgs born July 1944

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ArgyllGran Report 17 Aug 2021 12:58

The 2014 address in Mansfield was sold in 2014.

I don't see any sign of her on the Electoral Rolls after 2014, nor of having married since then, so I assume she has opted out of the public ERs - which isn't helpful when looking for her!

Her son isn't old enough to appear on ERs, so that's no help either.


KathleenBell Report 17 Aug 2021 16:29

You could write a letter to the new occupants of the 2014 address as they could possibly have a forwarding address - although it would be a long shot. Make sure you include a stamped addressed envelope as you are more likely to get a reply if you do.

Kath. x


ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2021 17:59

To add to Kath’s suggestion, I would advise putting your name and address on the outside of the envelope, in the hope that the recipient doesn’t simply bin it.

Having said that, I moved into my current address a little over 4 years ago - I have no forwarding address for the previous occupants and I would think that applies to most new owners of properties.


KathleenBell Report 18 Aug 2021 10:49

It might also be worth sending a letter to some of the houses close to the address in case anyone there were close friends of Tina and are still in touch with her.

Kath. x


Zoe Report 24 Feb 2024 23:25

Hi Linda!
I know a while has passed since you started this thread so I’m hoping there is still a way you will see it - if a moderator can put me in touch that would be great!
I’m hoping I can fill a gap in your father’s life for you. I see your father’s second wife Brenda has already invited you to message her for info so you may already know much of the information I have. But just in case anything got forgotten here goes!
Firstly let me introduce myself. I’m Zoe, and I believe I am married to your half brother Roger! He was adopted after being taken into care when he was 3.
I’ve been looking into Roger’s biological ancestry for years without much success - certainly on his father’s side. So it was a relief to come across your post - especially as we could never have known he changed his name to Brown!
Also, just to say - I do have Rogers permission to share this. He has paperwork which enabled us to build an accurate picture of Johns whereabouts between July 1966 and February 1971 and after a gap, also his whereabouts in the latter half of 1973.
Here goes - minus some information that would not be relevant to you, I hope you find it useful and I also apologise if any of it is upsetting.
In 1966 we know your father was living in Grimsby with a lady called Carole Partridge. In July of that year, they moved to Southend on Sea. She used name Higgs but we don’t believe they ever married. She and John had Roger in Q2 1968.
For reasons unknown, she left the family home in Q4 1969, leaving Roger with your father.
We do know that John went on to marry Brenda in early 1970 but in the autumn of that year, it seems John relocated to Lowestoft alone with Roger. We understand the move was work related and may possibly have involved time away from home. Sadly, 18 days after arriving in Lowestoft, Roger went into care for the first time. That new year Roger was placed back with John and also his step mother Brenda who had by now joined him. Unfortunately, just 5 weeks later Roger was removed permanently.
There is then a gap in information for your father. So perhaps he returned to SOS after Roger was placed into care. I note from this forum that there are potentially records for 2 more children born in Southend on Sea in the 1970s. I could only find one possible as the next time we find John it’s in Q4 1973 in the Chesterfield area. We know with absolute certainty he was there from Rogers adoption hearing paperwork.
Roger was adopted by the loveliest couple who gave him a happy childhood here in East Anglia and the security he needed.
By coincidence, both John and Roger’s adoptive father both passed away within weeks of each other. However he remains close to his adoptive mum. He has children and grandchildren and is a lovely, lovely man!

Having said all of that, I do have a few questions if that’s ok!
I took the information from the 1939 census someone kindly shared and added it to the scant info I already had on ancestry. Thanks to the fact that Johns mums grandmother was living with them in 1939, I’ve now found further records going back several more generations for your great grandmothers line and there is a very clear link to Glasgow. This came a surprise, because Roger has a very distinct Mediterranean appearance. We are relatively confident that this does not come from his biological mother side. And so I wonder if this makes sense to you or to anyone that knew him when he was alive. I note the absence of a biological father for John in what would’ve been wartime England. Does anyone know anything about Johns biological father? That he was give his mother’s surname tells me dad was long gone by the time he was born.
I’ve learnt something of the landscape, geography and infrastructure of Swadlingcote at that time and I wonder if Johns father was perhaps not English. It must had been incredibly tough for your grandmother!
I’ll finish by saying thank you again for posting this! I hope to hear from you!


ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2024 00:50

Welcome to the boards, Zoe.

As it's nearly 3 years since Linda started this thread, she won't be expecting replies here now, and may not see your post.

Try contacting her by clicking on her name at the top of one of her posts, and sending a private message.
If she still uses the same email address, GR will notify her that there's a message from you..
With luck, she'll reply!


Zoe Report 10 Mar 2024 22:57

Thank you! I did indeed - your website has helped connect a brother and sister after 50+ years. One didn’t know the other existed and the other did but was thrown off course and had all but given up. Because of you, they now have a connection I couldn’t have dreamt of and my husband has finally got some answers to a life time of questions. Thank you!


ArgyllGran Report 10 Mar 2024 23:38

That's very good news, Zoe.
Thanks for letting us know.