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Lynnedee Report 29 Aug 2021 20:09

Thank you to both of you. I haven't checked the Scottish BMD. Initially when I offered help it was mainly to try to find an address that Leigh could write to to make contact I had no idea she had found some information regarding her brothers or that they had spent some time in Scotland, Once again as I said a big thank you , some of the information you have given me I had also found - or on some things couldn't find - and some of it is new, I will pass on everything you have told me and then I think I will leave it at that and hope she has enough details one way or another to make actual contact and meet her long lost brothers. I wish her well but I don't think we would be able to find anything more that would help her. I did find her family tree on her mothers side so she has that to add to her findings and to maybe add to if and when she has time.
I'll close this post now with thanks - until next time I need your help x


ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2021 19:28

Alan's marriage 1979 , and the births of Jennifer Holly and Andrew James, all in Staffordshire.

You can find the records on FreeBMD, using Jennifer's birth as a starting point.
I don't see an earlier marriage to a Susan, in England/Wales/Scotland.

Jennifer's on the 2020 ER in Staffordshire.

ErikaH mentioned Scottish BMDs.
I checked them yesterday.
There are a number of marriages of men named Andrew Murdoch in possible years, but none to an Amanda or Mandy.
No death of an Andrew Murdoch with no middle name, born 1964.
No birth of a Pearl Murdoch in a reasonable year.

There are births of two Penny Murdochs (2013 and 2018) - but Alan's supposed daughters Pearl and Penny are thought to be in their 40s.
No Penelope Murdoch born in a possible year.


ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2021 19:11

Rose posted the link at 22.41 yesterday

BTW ‘Pearl’ is a very old-fashioned name

Also, have you checked Scottish BMD’s?


Lynnedee Report 29 Aug 2021 18:25

thank you for the the information above and yes it is definitely Leigh ( I didnt realise I typed Lisa) that is looking for her brothers as she was adopted and hasn't met them, I wasn't told about the newspaper article so I can only apologise as I now feel Ive wasted everyone time on helping me look . The only other information she gave me was that Allan may have had children Pearl and Penny and then may have had Jennifer Holly and James Murdoch with another partner but I know you came up with the same result as I did for a Pearl or Penny and Im not looking further until I've contacted her - as you say without a bit more information on names it does get difficult when searching. Once again I can only apologise for not knowing about the article - I offered my help in searching but it seems she has most of the information and we can not add anymore to it.. Where would I find the newspaper article please ErikaH?


ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2021 12:55

According to the newspaper article, LEIGH ( not LIsa) got in touch with ANTHONY and was told that ALLAN (Alan J) had died, and that Anthony is not in contact with ANDREW


ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2021 12:14

She's Leigh on ERs from 2002 onwards.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2021 22:41

Is it Lisa or Leigh?

Brothers went to Scotland for a while. Leigh made contact with Anthony.



Lynnedee Report 28 Aug 2021 19:58

sorry late in replying. All the brothers lived in Coventry, I couldnt find girls names either, but as I've been looking on other sites I found 2 people looking to contact the same Andrew Murdoch, one of whom is asking from Australia, unfortunately I am not a member so therefore can't make contact, I might have to leave this for now as I have to go out so thank you once again. Oh and only Lisa (Marilyn) was adopted and the other family members were all in the Coventry area,, Thanks again.


ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2021 17:52

Yes, that's the other possibility.

We know Marilyn (aka Lisa) was.


ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2021 17:49

Were any - or all - of these siblings adopted?


ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2021 17:41

Unless Lisa knows Alan's wife's maiden name, for instance, or any other details, we are not going to be able to find out where any of the brothers are living now.

If any of them emigrated (and I'm beginning to think that may have been the case with Alan, as there's no sign of his daughters' births, at least not with those first names - perhaps they were middle names ??), then we're even less likely to find them, as records may be too recent to be online.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Aug 2021 17:23


Deaths 1988

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Aug 2021 17:20

1939 reg

Shirley P Whelan
[Shirley P Murdock]
[Shirley P nee Leading aka Whelan]
[Shirley P Murdoch (Married Name)]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1937
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 190
Residence Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Under School Age
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 111
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: QDPQ
Borough: Coventry
Registration district: 390-2
Household Members Age
Charlotte Leaning
Dorothy Leaning
Shirley P Whelan 2

Shirley Patricia Murdoch
Death Age: 43
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1937
Registration Date: Jan 1981
[Feb 1981]
[Mar 1981]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Rugby
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 0272


Lynnedee Report 28 Aug 2021 17:16

It seems this is a bit of a complicated one, The only Pearl I found was born in the 1800's but I said I would do my best for her as both her birth parents have died so she has no one to ask for information . Thank you for your help. i will ask her if she can remember any more little details which may help in the research. Thank you again

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Aug 2021 17:16

Births Jun 1957
MURDOCH Alan J WHELAN Coventry 9c 1076
Births Mar 1964
Births Mar 1967

Births Mar 1980


Marriages Mar 1957
MURDOCH Alexander WHELAN Coventry 9c 2098
WHELAN Shirley P MURDOCH Coventry 9c 2098

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Aug 2021 17:11

Don’t usually like to post births post 1930 as the person is most likely still alive

But just for the search

Births Mar 1964


Lynnedee Report 28 Aug 2021 16:57

its the sister who is searching for her brothers


ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2021 16:56

Can't see any likely marriage of an Alan Murdoch to a Susan, nor births of the daughters you mention - at least in England and Wales.
Nor a marriage in Scotland.


malyon Report 28 Aug 2021 16:52

there was a sister looks like she was adopted MARILYN 1980 also a brother alan 1957


Lynnedee Report 28 Aug 2021 16:46

oh thank you for looking - you've got the same answers as me, I was hoping I may have missed something. Lisa thinks Andrew married a Mandy - Amanda? Nothing more than that I'm afraid, His older (deceased) brother was Alan who married Susan and had daughters Pearl and Penny who would both be in their early 40s now.