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how many changes in surname can you have !

LOL! Quite a few with this bunch,Maddie!

Just as an aside.I think this might be Robert's birth:
Births Jun 1849 (>99%)
AUGER Robert Andover 7 38

Maureen

Hi All

I'm looking for a Frederick Ernest Etches in the 1901 census but I have since decided he may have been in Scotland as 2 of his children in the 1911 census were born in Dundee Scotland. I would also like to find the births of theses 2 children Amelia 1898 and Frederick 1899.

Can anyone help? Did they have the census in Scotland?

Regards
Dave

Hi Dave,

Sob! I don't think you ever thanked Maddie and I (me??) for our last replies.

However,the 1901 Scotland transcriptions only are on Ancestry and they've made some lulus here:

1901 Scotland Census about Frederick E Etches
Name: Frederick E Etches
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Kathein Etches
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rubislaw
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 34 Beaconsfield Pl
Occupation: Managing Diretor Phsozraphic Pettislan
ED: 41
Household schedule number: 118
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick E Etches 28
Kathein Etches 23
Dorothy A Etches 5
Amilia E Etches 3 born Duredes, Forfarshire (Dundee,I guess?)
Frederick E Etches 2
Ellen Marlin 19

Source Citation: Parish: Aberdeen Rubislaw; ED: 41; Page: 21; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1901_59; Year: 1901.
............................
You'll have to look at:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

It's a pay site,but you can see the original 1901 census as well as the childrens birth regs. (Pretty easy to find,I'm sure-if you narrow down the search year for their births.)

Maureen

Hi Maureen
I'm so sorry for not thanking you and Maddie with your help on the ELGAR, HELGAR (and the many more spellings) family. Just to let you know that I have now most of the info on this side of the family. Nellie was my mother-in-law's Mother. Sadley my mother-in-law Joyce died early in June 2011 and you never seem to ask the questions you need when people are around to answer them.
However thank you once again and also for the information you have supplied with regards to the Etches. This is my son-in-law's family I'm researching.
If I need any further help (as Arnie says) I shall return.
Thanks
Dave xxxx

Hi All
I'm looking for my Grandmother in the 1891 census. Her name is Emily Minnie Taylor born 1882 in Staines Middlesex. I can find her in the 1901 census living in Staines in service to a Mr Seddon. In the 1891 census I have a Emily Taylor with the Tedder family but it says born in Feltham Middlesex, however on the census form it says something in the relationship to head of household which I can't read. Can anybody help with a different site look up.
Thanks for your help.

think it says 'daughter by her husband'


1891

TEDDER, Peter Head Married M 40 1851 Railway Plate Layer
Chobham
Surrey VIEW
TEDDER, Sarah J Wife Married F 35 1856
Pensnett
Staffordshire VIEW
>>>TAYLOR, Emily Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDER, Albert Son M 4 1887
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDER, Fredk Son M 3 1888
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDER, Ernest Son M 1 1890
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1014 Folio:
134 Page:
23

Registration District:
Staines Sub District:
Sunbury Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Dunstans

Civil Parish:
Feltham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Bedfont Road, Feltham County:
Middlesex



??

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PANTLING Elizabeth Staines 3a 34
>>>>>>Taylor Jane Staines 3a 34
>>>>>>Tedder Peter Staines 3a 34
Webb Arthur Staines 3a 34

Thanks Choccy

Still not convinced this is the same Emily Taylor mainly because there is another Emily Taylor born in 1882 in Feltham. Shall keep looking and as a last resort send for the birth cert for parents name.

Thanks once again.
Dave

1901


TEDDAR, Peter Head Married M 50 1851 Greengrocer
Chobham
Surrey VIEW
TEDDAR, Sarah J Wife Married F 45 1856
Pensnett
Staffordshire VIEW
TEDDAR, Albert Son Single M 14 1887 Laborer Builders
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Frederic Son Single M 12 1889
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Ernest Son Single M 11 1890
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Matthew Son Single M 9 1892
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Mark Son Single M 7 1894
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Luke Son Single M 5 1896
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW
TEDDAR, Peter Son Single M 3 1898
Ashford
Middlesex VIEW
>>>>TAYLOR, Emily Sister-In-Law Single F 19 1882 Laundress
Feltham
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1171 Folio:
90 Page:
23

Registration District:
Staines Sub District:
Sunbury Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Dunstans

Civil Parish:
Feltham Municipal Borough:
Address:
High Street, Feltham, Village County:
Middlesex

Who did she marry?

This one???
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emily Minnie Taylor
Name: Emily Minnie Taylor
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Spouse Name: James William Hastings
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1905
Parish: St Mary, Staines
County: Surrey
Father Name: Joseph Taylor
Spouse Father Name: James Hastings

Maureen

Usual transcription error:

1891 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines

RG number: RG12 Piece: 1016 Folio: 140 Page: 20


Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines
Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Staines
County: Middlesex

SAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 41 1850 Groom Domestic
Staines
Middlesex
SAYLOR, Amy Sarah Daughter F 13 1878
Windsor
Berkshire
SAYLOR, Florence Kate Daughter F 11 1880
Staines
Middlesex
SAYLOR, Emily Minnie Daughter F 9 1882
Staines
Middlesex
SAYLOR, Gladys Lizzie Daughter F 4 1887
Staines
Middlesex
SAYLOR, Elizabeth Susan Daughter F 2 1889
Staines
Middlesex
LEADER, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 61 1830
Slough
Buckinghamshire


Maureen

For ref:

1881 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1328 Folio: 152 Page: 21

Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines
Parish: Staines Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Staines
County: Middlesex
TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 32 1849 Coachman
Staines
Middlesex
TAYLOR, Sarah Wife Married F 23 1858 Coachman Wife
Cippenham
Buckinghamshire
TAYLOR, Ann Sarah Daughter Single F 3 1878
Windsor
Berkshire
TAYLOR, Florence K Daughter Single F 1 1880
Staines
Middlesex
DIBLEY, James A Lodger Head Single M 35 1846 Gardener
Staines
Middlesex


1901 census transcription details for: Church Street, Staines
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1175 Folio: 19 Page: 30

Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines
Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Staines
County: Middlesex
TAYLOR, Joseph Head Married M 53 1848 Groom Domestic
Staines
Middlesex
TAYLOR, Florence K Daughter Single F 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic)
Staines
Middlesex
TAYLOR, Gladys L Daughter F 14 1887
Staines
Middlesex
TAYLOR, Lizzie S Daughter F 12 1889
Staines
Middlesex

1911 census transcription details for: 42 Church Street Staines
RG14PN6751 RG78PN336 RD126 SD2 ED8 SN113


Reg. District: Staines Sub District: Staines
Parish: Staines Enum. District: 8
Address: 42 Church Street Staines
County: Middlesex

TAYLOR, Joseph Head Widow M 63 1848 Gardener Domestic Staines Middlesex
TAYLOR, Gladys Daughter Single F 24 1887

Says he was married 26 years . 5 children. All living.


Wonder what happened to Sarah?

Maureen

Don't ask me! HELP!
(Spicer on image,I think. Don't the details for Sarah and Elizabeth match ??).

1861 census transcription details for: Buckingham Garden, Upton, Slough

RG number: RG09 Piece: 853 Folio: 26 Page: 46

Reg. District: Eton Sub District: 2 Eton
Parish: Upton Enum. District: 9 H
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Buckingham Garden, Upton, Slough
County: Buckinghamshire

SPICK, William Head Married M 37 1824 Groom
Langley
Buckinghamshire
SPICK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1830 Laundress
Slough
Buckinghamshire
SPICK, Elizbeth Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Langley
Buckinghamshire
SPICK, Ann Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
Slough
SPICK, Lydia Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Chalvey
SPICK, Sarah Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar
Cippenham

Could be me as well!!!

Maureen

Hi MaureeninNY

Thank you so much for the info. You are right with the marriage to my Granddad James William Hastings. The info you have supplied now allows me to trace this side of the tree. Once again spelling was the problem but with your magical help problem solved. Thank you so so so much.....

Dave
xxxxxxxxxx

You're very welcome,Dave!! Just wish I (we) could crack the maiden name of Sarah for you.


Best,
Maureen

Hi Maureen
Sorry I haven't replied earlier but had things to do.
Sarah was a Spicer (I think) but what happened to her I can't find out, she just seems to have dissappeared. The other strange thing is that on the 1891 census Joseph has his Mother in law living with him and the surname is LEADER which would lead you to think that Sarah maiden name was Leader would it not or am I completly on the wrong track.
Would like your views on the subject.
Regards
Dave xxx

1871 Sarah not there.

SPICER, William Head M 48 1823 Buckinghamshire
SPICER, Elizabeth Wife F 41 1830 Buckinghamshire
SPICER, Susan Daughter F 9 1862 Buckinghamshire
SPICER, Minnie Daughter F 4 1867 Buckinghamshire
SPICER, John Son M 0 1871 Buckinghamshire
Registration District:
Eton Sub District:>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Eton Enumeration District:

Civil Parish:
Upton cum Chalvey Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cottage, Upton Cum Chalvey, Slough County:
Buckinghamshire

Just putting this here to start thinking and give me a lead for my thinking.



Hmmm??
Marriages Jun 1877
Spicer Sarah Eton 3a 589
Taylor Joseph Eton 3a 589

1881 and John Spicer born 1870 is in a school.

SPICER, John Boarder Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Slow
Buckinghamshire


The death of William Spicer?

Deaths Dec 1874
SPICER William 52 Eton 3a 296

Possible remarriages for Elizabeth?

Marriages Jun 1875
ASHTON Mary Eton 3a 610
Hawkins William Eton 3a 610
Shepherd George Eton 3a 610
Spicer Elizabeth Eton 3a 610

Marriages Sep 1878
Maskell Mark Eton 3a 673
SPICER Elizabeth Eton 3a 673
SPICKE Elizabeth Eton 3a 673

I will be back in a bit..........Feeding time is nigh

The 1875 marriage I say would look like Elizabeth Junior.

groom's name: George Shepherd
bride's name: Elizabeth Spicer
marriage date: 16 May 1875
marriage place: Upton, Buckingham, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Shepherd
bride's father's name: William Spicer


1881 for the Maskells.
MASKOLE, Mark Head Married M 69 1812 Baker
Cookham
Berkshire
MASKOLE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 51 1830
Upton.Cum.Chalvey
Buckinghamshire

Registration District:
Eton Sub District:
Burnham Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Stoke-Poges Municipal Borough:
Address:
?, Stoke-Poges County:
Buckinghamshire

Marks death?
Deaths Jun 1884
Maskill Mark 73 Windsor 2c 263

And Elizabeth remarries again to become mrs Leader..

Marriages Sep 1885
Leader William Windsor 2c 751
Maskell Elizabeth Windsor 2c 751

And a poss death for William Leader?

Deaths Mar 1888
LEADER William 50 Kingston 2a 231

Just to say - I am looking too, but haven't found anything useful yet ......dratt!!!

Looks like Elizabeth in 1881 - not yet re-married??


1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Spicer Name: Elizabeth Spicer
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: George Green Langley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Upton Cum Chalvey
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Somerset Place
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Eton
Sub-registration district: Eton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1460
Folio: 86
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Arnold 51
William Arnold 17
Elizabeth Spicer 47 Housekeeper

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1460; Folio: 86; Page: 35; GSU roll: 1341354.


I will keep looking.......

Dea x

I think that may have solved the Elizabeth Spicer to Leader for the Mother-in-law on 1891???
I really dont think that is her on the 1881 you have Dea..I looked at that first thing and it just didnt sit right.
But of course I have been known to be wrong on occasion?

I think that she wore her hubbys out rather quickly did our Elizabeth Spicer c1830

Wow Fans !! - VERY well done !!!!!!!!!!!

At least I can stop looking now, I was still a mile away !

Dea Xxx