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Can someone help me. John & Martha Bennett 1861/71/81/91 census living in Shrewsbury Shropshire with their 10 children they then moved to Small Heath Birmingham and in the 1911 census Martha a widow is living with 8 children (she states she has had 9 children 8 iving) but she did have 10 children baptised at her local church in Shrewsbury.
My problem is she had a daughter Lucy 1867 (who was my g.Grandmother) who married in 1895 to William Shotton and is listed with him in the 1901 & 1911 census forms. So why is Lucy listed in the 1901 census living next door to her parents with her married sister Emily and in the 1911 census back living with her mother Martha.
Also my Lucy died in 1940 and was buried in Shrewsbury Cemetery, yet the 'other' Lucy was buried in Yardley Green Cemetery in 1913 ?
All the other names/dates for her siblings are correct

it seems to be common practice back then to name a chikld after one who had died - in my Dad's family, baby Nancy died and when the next little girl was born the children all said "We have another Nancy" so she was called Nancy too

No she was not named after a child which had died as they were both alive 1901/1911 census

Is this the marriage you mean....?

Marriages Sep 1895

Davis Eliza Jane ..Cannock 6b 739
>>>PADDOCK Lucy ..Cannock 6b 739
Sharples Samuel ..Cannock 6b 739
>>>Shotton William ..Cannock 6b 739


Gwyn

It's possible that she was recorded on 1901 and 1911 with husband even though she wasn't actually in the house! Wouldn't explain 2 Lucys' deaths though. I'm assuming they have same birth year parents' details on the gravestones, hence the puzzle? How did you find out about the other Lucy's burial?
Jan

The above marriage is not the correct couple.
They have the same birth year same name Lucy Bennett both born in Shrewsbury to John & Martha Bennett, but my Lucy married William Shotton and the 'other Lucy' never married but according to a person I have been in contact with through GR the 'other' Lucy was living at 237 Arthur Street Aston B/ham when she died; which is the same house as my Lucy's family.
Please can one of you knowledgeable people out there explain this to me, I am at a loss to understand.

This is the 1913 death I take it - the same age as you say. This is very strange isn't it.

Deaths Jun 1913

Bennett Lucy 46 Birmingham 6d 224

I can only see one birth though:

Births Mar 1867
Bennett Lucy Shrewsbury 6a 671

Sorry to be a bit dim, but could you just re-cap please? Not sure why you think the Lucy who died 1913 is daughter to John and Martha.

Jan

The other person I have been in touch with re: Bennett family has sent me a copy of the internment details which states "Lucy Bennett 46 - 21 May 1913 237 Arthur Street Aston" This is the house that 'my' Lucy's parents were living in at that time.

Forgot to mention that when Lucy married, she married under the name of Louisa Bennett both she and William signed with the mark of a X, the registrar told me that it was quite common for spelling mistakes because the people concerned could not read or write, but the fathers details are correct for both parties, so I have got the right couple.

Is this her birth on IGI?

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Lucy BENNETT Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
1867 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: John BENNETT Family
Mother: Martha BENNETT

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
U000731 Film
Sheet:

Just to place them 1911:

BENNETT, Martha Head Widow F 75 1836 Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Thomas Son Single M 56 1855 Labourer General Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Henry Son Single M 52 1859 Labourer Bricklayer Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, John Son Single M 50 1861 Labourer Bricklayer Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, William Son Single M 46 1865 Labourer Bricklayer Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Lucy Daughter Single F 44 1867 Servant Domestic Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Eliza Daughter Single F 40 1871 Servant Domestic Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Edward Son Single M 34 1877 Labourer General Salop Shrewsbury VIEW
BENNETT, Samuel Son Single M 31 1880 Labourer General Salop Shrewsbury VIEW

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Bordesley EnumerationDistrict:
10 Parish:
Aston

Address:
237 Arthur St Small Heath Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

This is very peculiar. Would you mind giving us details of "your" Lucy's marriage please? Could do with finding her too.
Jan

There is only ever one Lucy as far as I can see. Is there any possible chance that your Lucy is someone else entirely??

1871 England Census

Name: Lucy Bennett
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Shrewsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary

John Bennett 38
Martha Bennett 36
Thomas Bennett 16
Henry Bennett 12
John Bennett 10
George Bennett 8
William Bennett 6
Lucy Bennett 4
Emma Bennett 1
Thomas Evans 69
Mary Evans 73

I see the marriage you mean:

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Bennett Louisa Atcham 6a 1185
Egan Annie Atcham 6a 1185
Evans John Thomas Atcham 6a 1185
Shotton William Atcham 6a 1185

Got them1911!

SHOTTON, William Head Married M 50 1861 Worker On The Farm Not Known VIEW
SHOTTON, Lucy Wife Married
15 years F 43 1868 Lyth Hill Salop VIEW
SHOTTON, William Henry Son Single M 9 1902 Yels Gate Condover Salop VIEW

Registration District:
Atcham Sub District:
Condover EnumerationDistrict:
6 Parish:
Condover

Address:
Ryton Dorrington Shropshire County:
Shropshire

Brummiejan
How can I have the wrong Lucy when I have all her details?

It was just a theory!

I know it's a pain to ask so much, but you have such a mystery.

Firstly, you obviously have details of marriage and death for your Lucy, and her father's name from that. How have you linked her to this John and Martha?

Jan

Lucy Shotton in 1901 does not give her birthplace as Shrewsbury:

1901 England Census

Name: Lucy Shotton
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Brookhouse, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Condover
Ecclesiastical parish: Condover
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: Condover

William Shotton 45
Lucy Shotton 39
Annie Bennett 6

Jan

You see, I am just wondering about that Louisa name:

1891 England Census

Name: Louisa Bennett
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Manningham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford West End

Lewis Midgley 32
Pauline Midgley 33
Eveline Midgley 7
William Midgley 5
Annie Taylor 31
Ann Thompson 38
Louisa Amos 24
Louisa Bennett 23


1881 England Census

Name: Lousia Bennett
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Tasley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Bridgnorth St Leonard
County/Island: Shropshire

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Bridgnorth

John Bennett 66
Mary Bennett 57
Sarah Bennett 23
William Bennett 18
John Bennett 17
Jane Bennett 15
Lousia Bennett 13

I'm going to put out a plea for someone else to have a look as I fear I'm tying us up in knots here.

Jan

Now you know how I feel,-- She was born Lucy and she died Lucy, the family never moved far except for when her parents took the family to live in Aston B/ham and this was after Lucy married.
In the 1901 census it says she was born in Brookhouse it should have read Workhouse.
Her baptisim and that of her siblings are all recorded at their parish Church, St.Michaels Church Shrewsbury

So, I take it you are 100% certain that her family moved to Birmingham? Going a bit mad here!
Are you sure about that workhouse birthplace? Have never seen that before.
Jan