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My Dad's Infancy Is A Puzzle!!

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Paul

Paul Report 7 Oct 2008 23:27

Thanks Val. I really appreciate it.

Paul.

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 7 Oct 2008 23:28

Paul - on the chat board - someone was asking about a LUCAN - last known whereabouts 1974!!

Christine

Paul

Paul Report 7 Oct 2008 23:31

>>>

Handlebar moustache and posh accent....

He works on the meat counter at our Co-Op!!!!!!!!!

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 7 Oct 2008 23:38

I knew I'd seen him!!

I'm off - too tired! nite nite all

Christine

Paul

Paul Report 7 Oct 2008 23:41

Thanks for everything Christine.

Goodnight.

ValT

ValT Report 7 Oct 2008 23:57

I think the name and address I have given you will put you in touch with a cousin and maybe he will know more about the adoptions.

Hope so

Val

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 00:01

Hi Val

I have PM'd him and eagerly await his response.

I'll definately keep you posted.

Thanks Val.


Paul.

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 14:21

Does anybody know what Ayelstone House, Lower Wilton Road, Great Malvern was?

It's not there any more. Google Earthing shows what looks like a modern housing estate.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Oct 2008 15:54

Paul,

Me again!!!

I have just sent an email to a man I know who has alot of information about Worcestershire and Parishes, asking if he knows ant information about it. I will let you know when he replies.

Hope the other information I sent you helped/s

Kirsty

Dea

Dea Report 8 Oct 2008 18:57

Just wanted to say again - well done Kirsty but also |(Isn't that Paul just 'lovely' ?? - I am sure his 'dad' would be VERY proud of him - anyone would !!)


Best of luck both!

Dea x

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Oct 2008 19:00

ohhhhhhhh thanks Dea,

I know there are some people on here that you could help forever and others that you can't!!

Kirsty

ValT

ValT Report 8 Oct 2008 19:34

Hi all

I have been thinking about Dorothy all day and wondering if we could find a trail from her. I think I will hope the death of William is right and start from there. Have 2 of my granddaughters tonight so I may not be around much.

ValT

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 19:40

Hi Val

I think Dorothy is key in all of this.

Thank you for your thoughts and perceverance (I think that's how you spell it!!)

Talk soon.

Paul.

jansmith

jansmith Report 8 Oct 2008 20:08

cannot find a marriage so could one/both have been married ,if thats his death index then William would have been about 40 when your dad was born,Perhaps need that death cert to see if there are any other names on it

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 20:35

Thanks for that, Janice.

I actually have in my possession a Statutory Declaration that Dad signed in 1976.

In it he states that for the avoidance of doubt he wishes to always be known as and be addressed as William Henry Patrick Usher.

He also states that "The Persons whom I understood to be my parents were known to me as William Henry Usher and Mary Jane Usher. Their marriage was solemnised on the 24th day of December 1936. They raised me as a child and I knew no other persons as my parents.

Why was their marriage solemnised in 1936 when Dad was born in 1922??

So, going back to Dad's birth certificate (which I have) his parents are named as William Henry Patrick and Dorothy Patrick (formerly Preece).

If it William Henry's death details that have been found, and Dad was 3 when his Dad died, and assuming Dorothy couldn't cope and gave him up for adoption, then surely Dad wouldn't remember his biological parents.

Do you think I'm right to sumise all that?? What do you think??

Paul.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Oct 2008 20:44

Paul,

I think I have the answer

Deaths Mar 1924 (>99%)
Patrick Dorothy 29 Worcester 6c 173

Look at this
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8965&iid=ONS_M19364AZ-1334&fn=&ln=usher&st=d&ssrc=&pid=276570

Then this one

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8965&iid=ONS_M19364AZ-0999&fn=&ln=Patrick&st=d&ssrc=&pid=277206

I recon you need to order these certificates


Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 8 Oct 2008 20:51

Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
Patrick Mary Jane Worcester 6c 286

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 21:11

Kirsty




The riddle has been solved.

Dad's Dad married the sister of Dad's Mom!!!!

Dad's aunty raised him as her owh and never told Dad any different.

I'll message you again as soon as I've finished my bangers and mash!!!


Paul. x

Paul

Paul Report 8 Oct 2008 21:31

I can't believe this is just about over. It's been a real adventure and an adrenaline rush.

I am deeply humbled by everyone's involvement. Kirsty.... Christine.... Janice.... Val... and Dea.

Now I know where my place is in my family and now the secret (if it was a secret) didn't die with my Dad. It lives on through me and I shall pass it on so that nobody has anything to be ashamed of or embarrassed about.

Bless you all.... and please stay in touch.


Your friend..... Paul Usher

Proud son of William Henry Patrick Usher 1922 - 1998.

x x x

jansmith

jansmith Report 8 Oct 2008 21:42

Puzzle solved now what are we going to do with our evenings!!