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I haven't got time to follow it right now but I believe Ann's first husband was probably Benjamin:

1881 England Census
about Abraham Walters
Name: Abraham Walters
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: No 25 Pike Helve
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labr In Mill (Iron)

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Walters 39
Ann Walters 37
Abraham Walters 13
Aaron Walters 10
Annie Walters 3
Selina Walters 1
Isaac R. Burbridge 39
William J. Hill 32

Dea x

Benjamin's death:

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Walters Benjamin 44 W. Bromwich 6b 474

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Dea x

Wow!..Thanks to you Dea, I"ve almost finished my tree!!!!..Just kidding!...Got back to 1793 on one connection, Everyone moved from tickerton in Somerset to B'ham!..Very silly move!...Second marriage right!...Sorry for the delay in my replies..We are still working on candle power and christal receivers here!

My team for the last 55 years has been Aston Villa!!

John.x.

Another clue to follow:

1871 England Census
about Maria Walters
Name: Maria Walters
Age: 8 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Walters 29 Pedler
Ann Walters 27
Abraham Walters 3
Sarah Walters 5
Maria Walters 8 months
Rebecca Burbridge 75 mother *********


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2983; Folio: 129; Page: 12; GSU roll: 838867.

Dea x

Tee hee John William,

China is FAR ahead on electronics and light bulbs.

No need for candles there, only for special + festive occasions !!

Dea x

Lots and lots of info;....Great!!!

John.x.

The light bulbs are all energy savers,and as such, when the supply is busy, the lights dim!!...Candlelight!!!

Get working on it then !!! and come back to us when you need more !!!

Dea Xxx

P.S. - I HATE those 'energy savers' !!

I just bought 100 x 100 watt light bulbs - sheer joy !! - I can now see again!!

Dea x

"West Brom is North B'ham,and that this is whom I'm looking for.!!!!!...Their football team is not much to shout about!!!"

The cheek of it. (lol)

West Bromwich is north of Birmingham but not North Birmingham. Up until a few years ago buses travelling between West Bromwich and Birmingham, or visa versa, had to stop at the boundary (Outside the Hawthorns, West Bromwich Albion's ground). Passengers could only pay the fare to the boundary and if they wished to continue their journey they then had to pay again to do so.

West Bromwich Albion are the most promoted team in the English football league. They have been promoted 4 times in the past 8 years. (We try not to mention the fact that they have been relegated 3 times in the same period (lol).)

Sorry Jonesey - I am not 'into' football.

The closest I can get is when my litte 18 month old grandson asks for his Futbowl!!, kicks it and then shouts Gowl !!!

That does it for me!!

Dea x

Hey Jonesey..Nice to get your imput again.

I remember it well!...We had to go to the British Embassy in London to get a Visa stamp on our passports to attend the Villa away games to West Brom.!!!!!!...I understand that local farmers are allowed to graze their cattle on the pitch during the week, to keep the grass short!...lol!

West Brom the most promoted team in English Football...Can't dissagree with the facts!

Up and down ,just like the proverbial YOYO!....and relegated faster than a FIDDLERS ELBOW..!!!.........As the old CB Radio enthusiasts used to say Jonesey "Come back!!"

John W.x.

The phone lines here are too busy to download records again!

Could someone please check for the deaths of the two people listed below in Manchester, Between 1902 and 1911

Michael Jordan,..D of B..1864
Mary Ann Jordan..D of B..1896.

Thanking you. John J.

Sorry - Can't find any deaths which fit !!

Dea x

An outside possibility for Mary Ann:

Name: Mary Jordan
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 11
District: Leigh
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 176

P.S. Villa have just beaten Blues 1:0

Jonesey,

I wish you would stick to the Mandarin script - I can translate that much easier.

I had to ask my husband on this one and now know 'blues' is Birmingham!

OOOh - you learn something more every day don't you ?

Dea Xxx

Sorry Dea,

I'm sure that John William who was born in Birmingham won't need a translator for that one. (lol)

P.S. Not having much luck with his grandad Michael Jordan. Like yourself I cannot spot a death. I have checked the Irish 1911 census in case he might have gone back home but I can't spot him on that so I'm off to check the the Canadian 1911 in case he went there.

We also have the "Baggies"...West Bromwich.!...A Premier team next season!

Mary Jordan of Greater Manchester sounds promising Dea!.But it says she was 11 years old!.....Can't understand where they went all of a sudden after 1901!.

Thanks again Teacher.x

No obvious joy on the 1911 Canadian census or the 1910 US census but this might prove interesting:

Name: Michael Jordan
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1904
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Ship Name: Lucania
Search Ship Database: View the Lucania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_452
Page Number: 93

Married
Occupation Gas Stoker
Going to visit his brother John Jordan who was living at 731 Washington ??, New York. The brother paid for Michael's passage

Sounds promising Jonesey, Leaving from Liverpool would make him a Northerner, as opposed to a Southerner, who would sail from Southampton...Perhaps he was living "over the brush' with Mary ann Heeley,and they never got round to marriage!.

There wasn't a Mary Heeley in that 1911 Workhouse list was there?
My thinking!...Michael goes to visit his brother John in the States..likes it better there,so stays on,and Mary Heeley ends up in workhouse with John and Elizabeth,and the other daghter who is 15 goes into a Nunnery!

What a sad story.

I think that Michael did do the honourable thing:

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
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EDWARDS Frederick Birmingham 6d 321
>>HEELEY Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 321
>>Jordan Michael Birmingham 6d 321
Murphy Catherine Birmingham 6d 321

1901:
Name: Michael Jordan
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Labourer at Gas works

Condition as to marriage: Married

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 131
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Jordan 37
Mary A Jordan 32 born Birmingham
Catharine Jordan 5