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Luan

Luan Report 6 Feb 2011 11:35

Please help people if you can.....
Does anyone out ther have any idea about my GG Grandma's earler years as she was adopted in possibly the areas of Bow Bell,Camberwell,Bermondsey.
She was born in 1882.
Now she was adopted by a Sidney Egginton and Frances Martha Egginton formerly Tyler and then they named my GG Grandmother Frances Martha.
Does any one know anything about these records.
I got all info about her from when she got married to my GG Grandad Frederick Parr Heath in 1905.
Many thanks....this is a tough one.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2011 11:45

There was no formal adoption until 1927 so there would probably be no records regarding your GG Grandma.

Kath. x

Astra

Astra Report 6 Feb 2011 11:46

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Dawson Isabella St. Geo. East 1c 900
Egginton Sidney St George in the East 1c 900
POTTER John St.Geo.East 1c 900
Tyler Fanny Martha St Geo.East 1c 900

Astra

Astra Report 6 Feb 2011 11:48

Fanny Egginton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Sidney Egginton
Gender: Female
Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England
Street address: 37 Batty St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sidney Egginton 21
Fanny Egginton 26

Luan

Luan Report 6 Feb 2011 11:49

ASTRA.......What does it mean what you have posted???
Regarding marriages.

Luan

Luan Report 6 Feb 2011 11:50

Thankyou Kath.
I keep wondering if she came from a workhouse or something in those days.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2011 11:53

The details that Astra posted are the reference numbers that you can use to order the marriage certificate of the couple who adopted her.

St. George in the East is the registration district.
1c is the volume number
900 is the page number.

You can order from the General Register Office (GRO) here:-

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Kath. x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 11:53

HI Luan,

this Sidney is also a printer born in the same place as the Sidney in 1881........ so I think it is the same man;

1901 England Census
about Sidney Eggington
Name: Sidney Eggington
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth J Eggington
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 263
Household Members: Name Age
Sidney Eggington 41
Elizabeth J Eggington 35
Edith M Eggington 14
Sidney W Eggington 3
Rosetta E Eggington 1
Florence J A Eggington 1 Month


Dee x

Luan

Luan Report 6 Feb 2011 11:58

Kath,
I know it was Sidney ang Fanny Martha who adopted her.
I don't understand who Dawson Isabella is or Jonh Potter.

Luan

Luan Report 6 Feb 2011 11:59

Thankyou Batmansdaughter,
I think Sidney had married twice as he was def married to a Fanny Martha formerley Tyler.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Feb 2011 12:01

Isabella Dawson and John Potter are nothing to do with your family. They are just the other couple on the same page of the marriage register. Sometimes there are two couples and sometimes there are 4 couples all on the same page.

Kath. x

Astra

Astra Report 6 Feb 2011 12:01

1911

EGGINTON, Sidney Head Married M 51 1860 Compositor London Bermondsey VIEW
EGGINTON, Elizabeth Jane Wife Married
16 years F 45 1866 London City VIEW
EGGINTON, Sidney Arthur Son M 13 1898 School London Clerkenwell VIEW
EGGINTON, Florence Ivy Daughter F 10 1901 School London Camberwell VIEW
EGGINTON, Elzabeth Grace Daughter F 8 1903 School London Camberwell VIEW

Address:
82 Harris Street S E County:
London

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:05

Hi Luan,

This looks like a son born to Sidney and Fanny;

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sidney Alfred Egginton
Name: Sidney Alfred Egginton
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882
Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1882
Father's name: Sidney Egginton >>> Printer.
Mother's name: Fanny Martha Egginton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St John
Borough: Islington

An a daughter;

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alice Maud Egginton
Name: Alice Maud Egginton
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1884
Father's name: Sidney Egginton
Mother's name: Fanny Martha Egginton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St Paul
Borough: Islington


I also saw this, but no baptism;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Fanny Martha Egginton
Name: Fanny Martha Egginton
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St George in The East
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 394


And then;

1891 England Census
about Fanny Eggerinton
Name: Fanny Eggerinton
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: End End, London, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wribbenhall
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Hawkes 60
Fanny Eggerinton 9
Maud Eggerinton 6 <<<<<<<< is this Alice Maud???
Leonard Robinson 4



Dee x

Astra

Astra Report 6 Feb 2011 12:09

EGGINTON, Martha Wife Married F 30 1861
Holborn
London VIEW
EGGINTON, Edith Daughter F 4 1887
Holborn
London VIEW

Civil Parish:
Clerkenwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, St James Street, Clerkenwell, London County:
London


So if this is Fanny Martha in 1891 then where is Sidney and where are the other children?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:16

Uuummm............

1891 England Census
about George Egginton
Name: George Egginton
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah A Collins 53
Edward A Collins 25
Frederick Purrier 31
William Sutton 27
John Stevens 32
George Egginton 29 >>>>>>>>> PRINTER, single
Matilda Keye 22


I wonder if this is Sidney???



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:24

I think this maybe Fanny/Martha;

1901 England Census
about Fanny Eggenton
Name: Fanny Eggenton
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Holborn

Civil Parish: Mile End New Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Olaves
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: Salvation Army Shelter
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

Married, Cloth Cutter

No others with her with the surname Egginton

Astra

Astra Report 6 Feb 2011 12:24

Could well be. His father was called George. I wonder if Frances Martha was his child from an affair?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:27

Ok,

so going back to your G G Grandma, her marriage was in the same area as she was in 1891;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

EGGINTON Fanny Martha Kidderminster 6c 349
HEATH Frederick Parr Kidderminster 6c 349


So it looks like the 1891 census was correct and she was with her sister Alice MAUD.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:28

Here's the sisters marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
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CLARKE William Thomas G Kidderminster 6c 377
>>>>>>>>>Eggington Alice Maud Kidderminster 6c 377
Elcock Frances Kidderminster 6c 377
NEAL Harry George Kidderminster 6c 377
NEAL Henry George Kidderminster 6c 377
NEALE Harry George Kidderminster 6c 377
NEALE Henry George Kidderminster 6c 377


Now she either married William Thomas G Clarke or Mr H G Neal/ Neale.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 6 Feb 2011 12:34

Your G G Grandmother in 1901??

1901 England Census
about Fanny Aglinton
Name: Fanny Aglinton
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidderminster St Mary
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Cole 50
Fanny Aglinton 19
Daniel Booton 49


????????????