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Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Apr 2011 22:54

i'm trying to trace my late mums family,but as evans is a common name,i am stuck! my gt grandfather william evans.b.rainford. 1857 married alice roughley(spelt ruffley on wedding cert)in 1875 in poolstock(wigan). can find alice on censuses for 1871;'81;'91 and 1911. can find william on 1891 census but drawn a blank everywhere else. can anyone please help? in 1891 i think they lived mealhouse lane. atherton

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Apr 2011 22:55

some lists say alice was born 1858..some say 1857

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Apr 2011 22:57

??

William Evans
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
christening: 23 Mar 1856 — Rainford, Lancashire, England
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents: William Evans, Esther
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Evans
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Mar 1856
baptism/christening place: Rainford, Lancashire, England
father's name: William Evans
mother's name: Esther
indexing project (batch) number: C02753-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1469032

patchem

patchem Report 4 Apr 2011 22:57

Name of William's father from marriage certificate?
Thanks

Lynski

Lynski Report 4 Apr 2011 22:58

Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
EVANS William Wigan 8c 51
Ruffley Alice Wigan 8c 51

Lynski

Lynski Report 4 Apr 2011 22:59

1881 census -
ROUGHLEY, Pheobe Head Married F 53 1828 House Keeper
Eccleston
Lancashire VIEW
ROUGHLEY, Annie Daughter Single F 14 1867 Coal Screener On Colliery Brow
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
ROUGHLEY, Elizth Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
ROUGHLEY, Arthur Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Alice Widow F 24 1857 Coal Screener On Colliery Brow
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3772 Folio:
21 Page:
35

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Hindley Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Hindley Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Baxters Row, Hindley County:
Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 4 Apr 2011 23:00

1861 England Census
William Evans
Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Esther Evans Gender: Male Where born: Rainford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rainford Ecclesiastical parish: Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Rainford ED, institution, or vessel: 4d Household schedule number: 56
Esther Evans 26
John Evans 8
William Evans 4
Richard Evans 1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2755; Folio: 55; Page: 12; GSU roll: 543024.

Lynski

Lynski Report 4 Apr 2011 23:03

1891 census-
EVANS, William Head Married M 34 1857 Colliery Labourer
Rainford
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Alice Wife Married F 33 1858
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Albert Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Elizabeth E Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Richard Son Single M 4 1887 Scholar
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, John Son Single M 2 1889
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, William Son Single M 0 (9M) 1891
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3090 Folio:
21 Page:
35

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Atherton Municipal Borough:
Address:
135, Mealhouse Lane, Atherton County:
Lancashire

Lynski

Lynski Report 4 Apr 2011 23:04

1901 census -
EVANS, Alice Head Widow F 44 1857
Upholland
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Albert Son Single M 17 1884 Coal Miner Hewer
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1885
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Richard Son M 14 1887 Clog Iron Worker
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, John Son M 12 1889 Pointer In Bolt Works
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, William Son M 10 1891
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Eli Son M 7 1894
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
EVANS, Fred Son M 5 1896
Atherton
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3596 Folio:
8 Page:
7

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John Baptist

Civil Parish:
Atherton Municipal Borough:
Address:
137, Mealhouse Lane, Atherton County:
Lancashire

Lynski

Lynski Report 4 Apr 2011 23:05

1911 census -
EVANS, Alice Head Widow F 53 1858 At Home Lanc Upholland VIEW
EVANS, Albert Son Widower M 27 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, Elizabeth E Daughter F 26 1885 Card Tenter Spinning Factory Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, Richard Son M 24 1887 Coal Miner Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, William Son M 20 1891 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, Eli Son M 19 1892 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, Fred Son M 15 1896 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23237 Reference:
RG14PN23237 RG78PN1358 RD460 SD4 ED7 SN341

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Atherton

Address:
137 Mealhouse Lane Atherton County:
Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 4 Apr 2011 23:08

1911:
EVANS, Alice Head Widow F 53 1858 At Home Lanc Upholland
EVANS, Albert Son Widower M 27 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Lanc Atherton
EVANS, Elizabeth E Daughter F 26 1885 Card Tenter Spinning Factory Lanc Atherton
EVANS, Richard Son M 24 1887 Coal Miner Lanc Atherton VIEW
EVANS, William Son M 20 1891 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton
EVANS, Eli Son M 19 1892 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton
EVANS, Fred Son M 15 1896 Coal Miners Drewer Down Coal Mine Lanc Atherton

RG number: RG14 Piece: 23237 Reference: RG14PN23237 RG78PN1358 RD460 SD4 ED7 SN341
Registration District: Leigh Sub District: Atherton Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Atherton Address: 137 Mealhouse Lane Atherton County: Lancashire

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Apr 2011 23:18

found that lynne,thnx. found date of wedding patchem,but it didnt show it..however,ann of green gables found it in baptisms,and williams father is also william! thnx ann,but i wonder y his birth year was given as 1857 in 1891 census? as christening was in march,could he have been born end of previous year? or are census dates approx?

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Apr 2011 23:28

thnx everyone...i remember the 2 youngest..uncle fred,and eli,who was my grandad. will now have a go at trying to find gt gt g/dad william and esther. have just done my maternal g/mas line...went back to 1208! cheated a bit tho..only got back to end of 1700s then latched on to another tree,joining in were my family coincided with theirs! would love to do something similar with my maternal g/dads family! wish me luck..i'll need it! xx

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Apr 2011 23:33

Elaine - be very careful about following someone else's tree. How do you know it's right?

Always best to do your own research and verification, much more satisfying too.

Good luck!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Apr 2011 23:37

?? connection?

William Evans
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
birth: 1834
christening:
baptism:
death: 11 May 1836 — Rainford, Lancaster, England
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: William Evans
gender: Male
death date: 11 May 1836
death place: Rainford, Lancaster, England
age: 2
birth date: 1834
indexing project (batch) number: I02939-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1657568

Elaine

Elaine Report 5 Apr 2011 00:04

marie celeste...i double checked the names and dates of births to make sure it was right. i hadnt a clue how to go any further back once i reached the early 1800s! at 64,the mind isn't quite as sharp as it was!

Elaine

Elaine Report 5 Apr 2011 00:12

i submitted a reply and it seems to have disappeared...i asked how alice was a widow living back home in 1881,then in 1891 she was married to william evans,with 5 children and in 1901 census she was widowed again,with 7 children. is it possible she was married to 2 william evans? we'll see if this gets put up! lol

Elaine

Elaine Report 26 Jul 2011 00:11

seems no-one could solve the above mystery! lol
Funnily enough though,my mums' sister,Irene Evans married Johnny Evans...so never changed her name when she married!

found out today that my grandad,Eli Evans served with the Kings' Own Scottish Borderers(he was born in 1894,so am presuming it must have been in WW1)

My gt uncle on "my other side"(my dads' side)was also in this regiment.

however,I can't for the life of me,remember how I found his details out,just using his name and regiment!

Can anyone help please,by pointing me in the right direction?

Thankyou.

Elaine

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Jul 2011 00:40

Eli Evans
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1894 —Atherton, Lancashire
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Atherton, Lancashire, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Atherton, Lancashire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Eli Evans
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 7
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Atherton, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Leigh
sub-district: Atherton
ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
civil parish: Atherton
county: Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jul 2011 06:46

This is from ancestry:
Eli Evans
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age at enlistment: 20
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 17515
Regiment Name: Kings Own Scottish Borderers
Number of images: 4
and then there is an image to examine, so if you had ancestry you found it there.

Reading back over this posting - have you got any birth or marriage certificates to help confirm you are following the correct people?