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Trying to find Surname for Mary m JOHN HARVEY

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Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 19:53

I please need help trying to find a surname for Mary born 1831c in Bitton, Glousetershire, Keynsham Parish.She married John Harvey b1826 in about 1844. Census and papers that I have of John Mary and their children only show Mary's name. Any help or pointers please.
PS - I m struggling to post on GR tonight, its taking forever, I am at my computer and not gone. Thanks :) Lynda


MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2011 19:56

Hello Lynda - was she really only 13 when she married? Where did this marriage take place (roughly)

Could you give details here of the census records you have found them in?

Can you give us the children's names, places and years of birth so we can work back?


Leonard Report 26 Apr 2011 19:58

is this any use to you

Name: John Harvey
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Phelps
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1843
Parish: St George, Bloomsbury
COUNTY: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Thomas Harvey
Spouse Father Name: Isaac Phelps


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 19:58

I queried that too, will quickly copy what i have - just a mo pls


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:01

John was definitely born in 1826.
Here is some of the others.
John Harvey
Mary Harvey
Mary A. Harvey
Harriett Harvey
Elizabth Harvey
James Harvey
Alfred Harvey
Lucy Harvey
Florence Harvey


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:03

think this is marriage reg

Name: John Harvey
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Keynsham
COUNTY: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume: 11
Page: 149 (click to see others on page)


MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2011 20:04

Thanks Lynda - any years and birthplaces for a few of them?

Where were they in census?


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:06

In the 1881 census their eldest daughter Mary Anne was 24 yrs old, make mw think they were married about 1854 as opposed to 1844.


MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2011 20:07

So it looks like it was Mary Abbott:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1844
>>ABBOTT Mary Keynsham 11 149
>>HARVEY John Keynsham 11 149
MAY James Keynsham 11 149
STOCKWELL Elizabeth Keynsham 11 149
Williams Anna Keynsham 11 149
WOOD James Keynsham 11 149

Birth certificate of one of the children will confirm mother's maiden name

EDIT - looks like we crossed posts and you now think a later marriage?


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:08

All children born in Bitton - Parish Keynsham
Appears Mary (mother) was too.
John born in Ilminster (Whitelackington)


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:10

I know John lived in Keynsham parish, census shows his sister moved there too, also shows her children there as well as them geting married there.


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:11

I only say later marriage, as it seems an awfully young age and i was quenring this to myself too. - I will follow up on the abbott surname and see what i can find. thanks so much for that.


Neil Report 26 Apr 2011 20:12

There is also marriage John Harvey to Mary Ann Davies, Cheltenham Q1 1849, GRO 11/229


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:14

1881 census shows Mary as being age 50, so i guess she must have been 13 - oh dear!! even though the children born much later.?!


MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2011 20:15

Lynda, safest and most accurate way to get her name is to get one of the children's birth certificates - very easy to follow the wrong line otherwise.


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:16

Neil - I am not from England, where is Cheltenham, in Somerset?


MarieCeleste Report 26 Apr 2011 20:18

Just posting that 1881 as a reference:

HARVEY, John Head Married M 55 1826 Agricultural Labourer Ilminster Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Mary Wife Married F 50 1831 Agricultural Labourer Wife Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Mary A Daughter Single F 24 1857 Stay Maker Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Harriett Daughter Single F 19 1862 Labourer At Paper Mill Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Elizabth Daughter Single F 16 1865 Labourer At Paper Mill Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, James Son Single M 18 1863 General Labourer Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Alfred Son Single M 14 1867 General Labourer Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Lucy Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Bitton Gloucestershire
HARVEY, Florence Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Bitton Gloucestershire

Registration District: Keynsham Sub District: Oldland Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Oldland (Gloucs) Municipal Borough:

Address: Park Wall, Oldland (Gloucs) County: Somersetshire


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:19

Thanks for all the info given to me, I will follow up and hopefully find the right person. Thanks so much again for your time and patience. - Lynda


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:20

Marie Celeste - Yes that is them - ALL of them the same family.


Lynda Report 26 Apr 2011 20:21

One more question - how do I go about getting a birth certificate for one of them.